From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,55eec2ee238f12cb X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!news2.google.com!proxad.net!212.101.4.254.MISMATCH!solnet.ch!solnet.ch!newsfeed.freenet.de!newsfeed.arcor.de!news.arcor.de!not-for-mail Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 18:03:15 +0200 From: Georg Bauhaus Organization: future apps GmbH User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050831 Debian/1.7.8-1sarge2 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Code completion in ada IDE's References: <433a5ca4$0$16478$9b4e6d93@newsread4.arcor-online.net> <1127913495.660736.9880@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1127913495.660736.9880@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <433abeb5$0$16479$9b4e6d93@newsread4.arcor-online.net> NNTP-Posting-Date: 28 Sep 2005 18:03:01 MEST NNTP-Posting-Host: 8962fe19.newsread4.arcor-online.net X-Trace: DXC=C=O38P\kA]ERG:gi]CKmZG:ejgIfPPldDjW\KbG]kaMHXY;eg@jLYeL]1\dXjfjRgOUUng9_FXZ=C>:=P9Ihe`BH@Z?dZ]MOidE X-Complaints-To: abuse@arcor.de Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:5240 Date: 2005-09-28T18:03:01+02:00 List-Id: Hyman Rosen wrote: > Georg Bauhaus wrote: > >>I also know that it stops people from learning because >>they get the impression they can get by without it. > > > "If we don't have it, you don't need it." Don't get me wrong, nothing wrong with using a computer to complete what I type. But that is different from not knowing anything about the word that I will have to type. identifier.+----------------- | bar | foo | and_so_on is different from identifier.f+------------- | foo In the first case I'm really browsing what is available with identifier. As the OP has explained, I don't have a clue what identifier is about, and I expect to be "helped" by spontaneous display of relevant interface documentation. In the second case I have some idea, however vague, of what to expect, given identifier. If there is some regularity in object interfaces, then I can either - know the regularity because I have taken the time to read about it. This is the case with STL, EiffelBase, Gobo, Ada.Containers etc. - continue browsing the interface via completion etc., believing this will remove the necessity to study the ideas behind the objects. A convenience trap.