From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,9a5f3bd162009c01 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!news4.google.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nx01.iad01.newshosting.com!newshosting.com!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!news.mailgate.org!nntp.infostrada.it!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newsfeed.arcor.de!news.arcor.de!not-for-mail Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 17:53:51 +0200 From: Georg Bauhaus User-Agent: Debian Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050817) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: GNAT GPL 2005: Too clever by half? References: <70e0e$4331acfc$4995583$14979@ALLTEL.NET> <87hdcew7wq.fsf@ludovic-brenta.org> <1127511077.919641.107390@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <87hdcasf3o.fsf@ludovic-brenta.org> <20eZe.3450$QE1.1476@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net> In-Reply-To: <20eZe.3450$QE1.1476@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <4335763b$0$16490$9b4e6d93@newsread4.arcor-online.net> Organization: Arcor NNTP-Posting-Date: 24 Sep 2005 17:52:27 MEST NNTP-Posting-Host: 185e2f45.newsread4.arcor-online.net X-Trace: DXC=`P]oP>=N9IgTE46CRO0njm:ejgIfPPlddjW\KbG]kaMhXY;eg@jLYel283FYoJ0ABmhP3YJKgE\jl@Xg?=E=WS7i X-Complaints-To: abuse@arcor.de Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:5104 Date: 2005-09-24T17:52:27+02:00 List-Id: Marin David Condic wrote: > They want a disk full of software that just plugs > in and they can go to town. In other words, they fall victim to the illusion of a DWIM environment. > They want it on their existing Windows > platforms. They want it to install with the ease they are used to for > other Windows software. This is the issue. Impression management. I'm serious, and I think the failure is not so much a licensing issue. All the more when licenses are evaluated by comparing the impressions you get, either from the wording, or from the people that some see associated with the license. Chad Meiners has told us an example. He dislikes RMS, and this reflects in part on the GPL. (I don't know RMS, but I can read the GPL.) Have you ever tried to do a non-trivial thing with Visual Studio? If so then you know that Microsoft development is as complicated as anything, if not more so, given the big complex, backwards compatible collection of software they support. The learning curve is not linear. Yet MS marketing manages to make people believe that it is easy to write Windows software. They let you make some easy steps in the beginning. After that you are on your own, but you have already bought the thing.