From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,703c4f68db81387d X-Google-Thread: 109fba,703c4f68db81387d X-Google-Thread: 115aec,703c4f68db81387d X-Google-Thread: f43e6,703c4f68db81387d X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,gid109fba,gid115aec,gidf43e6,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!news1.google.com!proxad.net!213.200.89.82.MISMATCH!tiscali!newsfeed1.ip.tiscali.net!border2.nntp.ams.giganews.com!border1.nntp.ams.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeeder.wxs.nl!transit.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail From: wouter@voti.nl (Wouter van Ooijen (www.voti.nl)) Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.c++,comp.realtime,comp.software-eng Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Teaching new tricks to an old dog (C++ -->Ada) Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2005 07:04:40 GMT Organization: Van Ooijen Technische Informatica (www.voti.nl) Message-ID: <422bfbe4.1178393550@news.xs4all.nl> References: <4229bad9$0$1019$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <1110032222.447846.167060@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <871xau9nlh.fsf@insalien.org> <3SjWd.103128$Vf.3969241@news000.worldonline.dk> <87r7iu85lf.fsf@insalien.org> <422b6c80.1141685927@news.xs4all.nl> X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 NNTP-Posting-Host: 213.84.20.53 X-Trace: 1110179078 news.xs4all.nl 28984 [::ffff:213.84.20.53]:49618 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:8797 comp.lang.c++:44422 comp.realtime:1045 comp.software-eng:4580 Date: 2005-03-07T07:04:40+00:00 List-Id: >Which is why other means are needed for quality software. Rigorous testing >and code reviews come to mind. IMHO one word is missing: Which is why other means are *also* needed for quality software. Rigorous testing and code reviews come to mind. Needed (not exhaustive): - a good definition (requirements etc) - education - reviews, brainstorms and other inter-person interactions - sensible management - sensible coding standards, *with a sensible escape mechanism* - good checking tools (Compiler, even for Ada a subset verificator is often used) - automtated (regression) test tools - test coverage check (somtimes even full path coverage check) - unit tests, integration tests, system tests etc. Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------ http://www.voti.nl Webshop for PICs and other electronics http://www.voti.nl/hvu Teacher electronics and informatics