From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,594ba004bb886c71 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!news2.google.com!proxad.net!feeder2-1.proxad.net!news5-e.free.fr!not-for-mail From: stephane@_delete_this_rochebrune.org (Stephane Riviere) Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: gcc 3.4.2 Ada Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 10:18:32 GMT Organization: rochebrune Reply-To: stephane@_delete_this_rochebrune.org Message-ID: <415fba69.57543983@news.free.fr> References: <4155167B.C0DC007B@yahoo.com> <0Pk5d.9793$gG4.888@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net> <878yaw523k.fsf@insalien.org> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Date: 03 Oct 2004 12:18:55 MEST NNTP-Posting-Host: 62.147.88.43 X-Trace: 1096798735 news5-e.free.fr 24008 62.147.88.43:1153 X-Complaints-To: abuse@proxad.net Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:4591 Date: 2004-10-03T12:18:55+02:00 List-Id: >No, I really do not have the time to port gnatwin, gnatcom and gwindows to >this -to me- confusing set of old tools. Well... I think I must do something to correct this statement 1) AIDE is not a confusing set of old tools but a coherent set of reliables tools, working together gracefully in a consistent directory structure (keeping Unix directory structure in mind). The main AIDE goals are integration, reliability and consistency : it is not an experimental package nor a slave to fashion. AIDE main tools are updated only when it is really needed. (1) AIDE is not out of date using 3.15p and GtkAda 2.2 but adopts a conservative approach for developer and user safeness, like Debian (but you may think Debian is also a confusing set of old tools). AIDE means Ada Instant Developement Environement : it is useable after a single copy under Windows platforms and has been designed equally for professionals, students and newcomers. It offers Emacs/Glide, GPS and a minimal Unix/bash shell (via MinSys/MinGw) to provide basic Unix services for Windows users. AIDE can recompile, by a single command line, GtkAda full test program testgtk (gtk 2.2) or complex GtkAda programs like GVD. It comes with a 80 pages manual, english translation is underway and will be ready for the next -coming soon- release, which will include lots of goodies, mainly around integrated user and maintenance documentation generation with Texinfo, Adadoc and Dia. 2) AIDE is only made up of multi-platform tool in order to propose to Windows developers the closest possible environment that can be found in free systems. This will also allow to present these wonderful tools in a soft and easy manner. Therefore, the Windows developer will be able to jump seamlessly from environment to another without feeling lost and also while maintaining all its usual tools and all the previously written programs. Regarding GWindows integration in AIDE, as suggested by Ludovic, there is a problem : GWindows is a Windows only specific tool, but AIDEshall only use multi-platform tools. However, I'm aware GWindows is a very valuable tool, at first glance easiest to use than GtkAda, and used by many fine people (like gauthier de montmollin for its TexDvi graphic utility). Best regards from France (1) For experiments, and thanks to Jeffrey Creem help, I've done (in winter 2002) an experimental AIDE (0.74) distribution with gcc 3.2 and gtk 2.0. which comes with full english and frenchs docs to re-create it from scratch. It was just for fun and self-education. Stephane Riviere Oleron Island - France http://stephane.rochebrune.org OpenPgp Key <5fd6a1e6> available on the web site above