From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,5faad1722103f6a7 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public Path: g2news1.google.com!news1.google.com!news.glorb.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newshosting.com!nx01.iad01.newshosting.com!post01.iad01.newshosting.com!not-for-mail From: "Vernon Brown" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada References: Subject: Re: 7E7 Flight Controls Electronics Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2004 01:18:34 -0700 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Message-ID: <40bedede$0$97756$4c5eba9e@news.getnet.net> X-Complaints-To: abuse@getnet.net Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:1057 Date: 2004-06-03T01:18:34-07:00 List-Id: "Rod Chapman" wrote in message news:cf2c6063.0405300234.1663792@posting.google.com... > Jeffrey Carter wrote in message news:<90Stc.15309$be.3117@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>... > > Honeywell is advertising for a software engineer for 7E7 flight controls > > electronics. The requirements are "Demonstrated experience using C/C++". > > No mention of Ada. > I work for Honeywell ATS, but these comments are my own. I don't think I'm letting out any secrets here... Some content for 7E7 will be done in C++, just because it's too hard to attract a large number (100s) of engineers who know Ada, or are willing to learn Ada and want to live in Phoenix (it's 86 degrees right now at midnite!) However, a majority of the code will be written/converted to Ada95, just because we have so much Ada83 code to leverage from. I'm guessing the reason for only mentioning C/C++ in the ad is to get sufficient response so that prospective employee's can be interviewed and asked if they would mind learning Ada instead of using C++. In reality, flight control software is very likely to all be Ada95. Currently I don't believe C++ is being proposed for use in any DO178B Level A (safety critical) systems. > I don't think we should read too much into this. Two possibly useful > pieces of information: > > 1) The Flight Control Electronics (FCE) is not the same thing as the > "Core System" which was recently won by Smiths/Windriver/Ada Core. > The toolset supplied by Smiths contains no support for C++. Honeywell is on its own to add compatible C++ tools. > 2) To the best of my knowledge, the contract for 7E7 FCE has not yet > been awarded. Anyone seen a press release? > Correct. > I'm sure the development approach, languages and all that stuff will > become far clearer once we know who's actually won the work! Here's hoping it's Honeywell, 'cause then I'll get to teach a bunch more engineers Ada! Vernon