From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,5faad1722103f6a7 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public Path: g2news1.google.com!news1.google.com!news.glorb.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!atl-c02.usenetserver.com!c03.atl99!c01.usenetserver.com!news.usenetserver.com!elnk-atl-nf1!newsfeed.earthlink.net!stamper.news.atl.earthlink.net!newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net.POSTED!d9c68f36!not-for-mail Message-ID: <40CA02EE.5000009@noplace.com> From: Marin David Condic User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 (OEM-HPQ-PRS1C03) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: 7E7 Flight Controls Electronics (COBOL Popularity) References: <90Stc.15309$be.3117@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> <40b86431$0$186$edfadb0f@dread11.news.tele.dk> <40B888E0.5040707@noplace.com> <40B8C86A.3050302@noplace.com> <40BE6BFD.8030305@noplace.com> <40BF141F.8020001@noplace.com> <40C38E7C.64564F@notes.udayton.edu> <99nyc.10465$uX2.6211@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 19:07:57 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 165.247.66.89 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net 1086980877 165.247.66.89 (Fri, 11 Jun 2004 12:07:57 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 12:07:57 PDT Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:1403 Date: 2004-06-11T19:07:57+00:00 List-Id: I might add that it isn't just by being able to point at successful projects in Ada. Certainly through time, we've had any number of successful projects implemented in Ada. It should be obvious to anyone willing to look that Ada *can* be successfully employed. The real trick here is to make projects that are a *commercial* success - invent something that uses Ada and sell it successfully - because it is only through some kind of commercial success that jobs are created, revenues to compiler vendors are created, universities are encouraged to teach Ada, etc. Unless it generates more revenues than expenses, what you've got is a hobby and hobbyist languages don't tend to fare well over the long run. MDC Richard Riehle wrote: > > Now that Ada must be a choice rather than fiat, we have the opportunity > to persuade people to use it rather than mandate its use. The only way > we can do that is through example. Those who believe it is a superior > approach to software development need to prove it by building better > software with it. Then they can announce their success with Ada. There > is no other avenue for Ada's long-term success. No amount of preaching, > complaining about someone else's stupidity, or managerial incompetence > will garner a single iota of success. Only success will lead to success. > Prove > Ada by its fruits, not through declamation and oratory. > > Richard Riehle > > > -- ====================================================================== Marin David Condic I work for: http://www.belcan.com/ My project is: http://www.jsf.mil/NSFrames.htm Send Replies To: m o d c @ a m o g c n i c . r "Face it ladies, its not the dress that makes you look fat. Its the FAT that makes you look fat." -- Al Bundy ======================================================================