From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII X-Google-Thread: 103376,8623fab5750cd6aa X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public Path: controlnews3.google.com!news1.google.com!newshub.sdsu.edu!elnk-nf2-pas!newsfeed.earthlink.net!stamper.news.pas.earthlink.net!stamper.news.atl.earthlink.net!newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net.POSTED!d9c68f36!not-for-mail Message-ID: <40BC6724.1030108@noplace.com> From: Marin David Condic User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 (OEM-HPQ-PRS1C03) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Improving Ada's image References: <40b9c99e$0$268$edfadb0f@dread16.news.tele.dk> <3ZMuc.93920$dP1.301740@newsc.telia.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2004 11:23:48 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.165.24.194 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net 1086089028 209.165.24.194 (Tue, 01 Jun 2004 04:23:48 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2004 04:23:48 PDT Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Xref: controlnews3.google.com comp.lang.ada:987 Date: 2004-06-01T11:23:48+00:00 List-Id: If Ada doesn't fix its core problems, changing the name won't make any difference. I think at the heart of its troubles is perhaps a cultural attitude that tends to work against it. We tend to get all wrapped up in various technical concerns and don't think about how it affects the net result. We want to write "perfect" software (not a bad goal) but neglect the concerns of the people who have to produce and sell an end product. They need things we're not giving them - or at least not addressing them as well as they can get elsewhere. Unless the focus shifts to one that truly emphasizes the needs of that end user and it gets more in line with making Ada a significant benefit to them and addresses their needs better, changing the name won't help much. MDC Bj�rn Persson wrote: > I think Ada needs to be rebranded to get away from its disrepute. From > my - admittedly not very experienced - point of view, far too many > people seem to know Ada solely from the phrase "Oh no! Not Ada!". Free > software started to get accepted when it was rebranded as Open Source. > Maybe Ada 200Y should be given another name. Call it Ceylon for example, > and introduce it as a brand new, modern, object oriented, Unicode > enabled language. > > Abandoning the name "Ada" would be a very small price to pay. I > certainly don't care what the language is called as long as it's a good > language. > -- ====================================================================== Marin David Condic I work for: http://www.belcan.com/ My project is: http://www.jsf.mil/NSFrames.htm Send Replies To: m o d c @ a m o g c n i c . r "Face it ladies, its not the dress that makes you look fat. Its the FAT that makes you look fat." -- Al Bundy ======================================================================