From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,3a4656a5edc0dab4 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public Path: controlnews3.google.com!news1.google.com!news.glorb.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!elnk-atl-nf1!newsfeed.earthlink.net!stamper.news.atl.earthlink.net!newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net.POSTED!d9c68f36!not-for-mail Message-ID: <40AC983B.10208@noplace.com> From: Marin David Condic User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 (OEM-HPQ-PRS1C03) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada used in General Aviation (GA) applications? References: <409F69CB.8020604@noplace.com> <40A218DD.9090903@noplace.com> <40A36368.7050104@noplace.com> <40A8AF7C.5000608@noplace.com> <40A9FBD4.40707@noplace.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 11:36:54 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.165.23.201 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net 1085053014 209.165.23.201 (Thu, 20 May 2004 04:36:54 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 04:36:54 PDT Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Xref: controlnews3.google.com comp.lang.ada:704 Date: 2004-05-20T11:36:54+00:00 List-Id: Actually, I'm looking at a new control project that would use PowerPC and VxWorks. Current leaning is towards Aonix for it. If ACT had a soup-to-nuts offering in that area, I'd want to know about it - but I'm not the ultimate customer. (I can recommend and maybe specify in the proposal, but the customer has to bob their head up and down. :-) It isn't just a matter of having a compiler that targets an embedded processor/OS and cross-compiles though. For one thing, most of the systems I'm dealing with don't have an OS, so you need a compiler that can go right down to the bare silicon & comes with its own suitable RTK. For another thing, it can't just be a compiler that happens to generate the right code for the machine and getting all the pieces married up is left as an exercise for the student. The schedule I'm looking at just plain won't allow for any messing around with cobbling together pieces. I need something where I can take it out of the box, plug it in and get started putting code in my machine. I don't know if ACT offers something that well integrated. I just know that in a prior life when I had been asking ACT about providing an embedded compiler for a PowerPC project (no OS) they politely sent me off to talk to someone else. I rather took that to mean they weren't interested in the embedded market much. Keep in mind also that (in terms of numbers of units sold) most embedded machines are pretty much smaller than your garden variety PowerPC. People mostly concede that they would have a hard time getting Ada to run on things like the HC11, etc. Now Spark? That might work well there. MDC Jeff C, wrote: > > > > I dont disagree with your initial points (deleted) but the stuff above is > not entirely correct. > > ACT certainly does "make a kit" to be used for embedded systems. > They are the "preferred" vendor for vxWorks (Real-time embedded OS) > they have or had a product for LynxOS (Real-time embdded though admittedly > unix like OS) > They will support (for a fee) proprietary kernels and no executive type > installs. > > They target PowerPC which is a popular embedded computer...Perhaps not in > your world... > > I have heard rumors of ARM support at various times (although again you are > correct they dont market it for ARM) > > As for the "Perhaps they'd like to bid on the next engine control I'll be > working on?" > > I would say...perhaps your right.. > > > > -- ====================================================================== Marin David Condic I work for: http://www.belcan.com/ My project is: http://www.jsf.mil/NSFrames.htm Send Replies To: m o d c @ a m o g c n i c . r "Face it ladies, its not the dress that makes you look fat. Its the FAT that makes you look fat." -- Al Bundy ======================================================================