From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,3a4656a5edc0dab4 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public Path: controlnews3.google.com!news1.google.com!newshub.sdsu.edu!elnk-nf2-pas!newsfeed.earthlink.net!stamper.news.pas.earthlink.net!stamper.news.atl.earthlink.net!newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net.POSTED!d9c68f36!not-for-mail Message-ID: <40A21BAE.1050801@noplace.com> From: Marin David Condic User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 (OEM-HPQ-PRS1C03) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada used in General Aviation (GA) applications? References: <409F69CB.8020604@noplace.com> <40A0BBE0.9060209@noplace.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 12:42:44 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 165.247.65.10 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net 1084365764 165.247.65.10 (Wed, 12 May 2004 05:42:44 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 05:42:44 PDT Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Xref: controlnews3.google.com comp.lang.ada:485 Date: 2004-05-12T12:42:44+00:00 List-Id: We could debate the exact numbers forever. I wasn't claiming that this was an exact representation but rather illustrative of how an industry works. I used to program digital TV boxes and the company sold *lots* of units. But the staff of people actually programming the boxes was relatively small (and getting smaller - which is why I left! :-) The point being that just because there might be a lot of HC11 processors sold, it doesn't follow that there will be lots of HC11 Ada compilers sold. If someone wanted to push Ada in the embedded market, I'd think the best way to do it would be to actually be in the board business. Design a board for a specific part of the market, target Ada to it, provide a whole suite of Ada related development tools to make the job of programming it a snap and then sell boards/development kits. "Sure, you could use C to program my spiffy little board, but it would take you longer because all the critical leverage items are all Ada related..." MDC Bernd Specht wrote: > > Well, if there were someone who sells *millions* on HC11/8051 products and > needs only *one* compiler, then I would agree. But - in this range it is > often the case, that a small company sells a few hundrets or thousands > units, but *every* developer has its own develop environment. So to sell > *millions* of units, there would be a lot of companies, who need a lot of > development tools (_not only_ compiler, but the _whole_ toolchain). But - > toolset must not be expensive (if one sells a few thousand boards, they > won't be willing to pay $1000_000 for the tools). > > -- ====================================================================== Marin David Condic I work for: http://www.belcan.com/ My project is: http://www.jsf.mil/NSFrames.htm Send Replies To: m o d c @ a m o g c n i c . r "Face it ladies, its not the dress that makes you look fat. Its the FAT that makes you look fat." -- Al Bundy ======================================================================