From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,3a4656a5edc0dab4 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public Path: controlnews3.google.com!news1.google.com!newshub.sdsu.edu!elnk-nf2-pas!newsfeed.earthlink.net!stamper.news.pas.earthlink.net!stamper.news.atl.earthlink.net!newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net.POSTED!d9c68f36!not-for-mail Message-ID: <409F69CB.8020604@noplace.com> From: Marin David Condic User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 (OEM-HPQ-PRS1C03) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada used in General Aviation (GA) applications? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 11:39:12 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.165.23.33 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net 1084189152 209.165.23.33 (Mon, 10 May 2004 04:39:12 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 04:39:12 PDT Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Xref: controlnews3.google.com comp.lang.ada:414 Date: 2004-05-10T11:39:12+00:00 List-Id: My guess is that like most embedded systems and most commercial/military avionics, it will be done in just about anything but Ada. The Joint Strike Fighter is pretty much entirely C++ with the exception being my engine control and I'm losing the battle on that one. Avionics developers don't purchase hundreds of thousands of compilers, so they don't drive the market. They've got to get adequate tools, talent and support and don't have megabucks available to just go home-grow it, so they start shopping around for what they can get on the open market and that ends up being mostly C++ these days. If Ada wants to be a player in General Aviation avionics it needs to do something to either a) target & capture some more "general" market that will provide the $$$ that will build the tools/talent/support or b) zero in on the GA market and invest heavily in building everything that market could possibly want. The "B" option is not practical because, as I've observed, we avionics builders don't buy huge volumes of compilers. The "A" option seems to meet with a general lack of interest on the part of those in a position to do something about it. My guess is that Ada isn't going to make any real headway into the General Aviation market because the big commercial/military aviation market is ignoring it in mass numbers. But perhaps if some Ada enthusiasts were to try to come up with some marketable General Aviation product that happened to be programmed in Ada it might have some encouraging results. You just don't see a lot of Ada entrepreneurs out there though. :-) MDC Kai Glaesner wrote: > Hello, > > there is a (silent) revolution going on in General Aviation these days. Long > after taking over in the cockpit of military and air-transport category > aircraft the computer now found its way into the GA airplane cockpit. > > With companies like Garmin bringing state-of-the-art avionics down to > affordable levels it wont take long until a "glass-cockpit" becomes standard > in GA. > > Now I wonder about what role Ada plays and will play in this business > segment. I hope it's a big one but anyone out there who knows (or can make > serious guess)? > > Thanks in advane for answers > > Kai > > -- ====================================================================== Marin David Condic I work for: http://www.belcan.com/ My project is: http://www.jsf.mil/NSFrames.htm Send Replies To: m o d c @ a m o g c n i c . r "Face it ladies, its not the dress that makes you look fat. Its the FAT that makes you look fat." -- Al Bundy ======================================================================