From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 109fba,e0a59694a441eb7b X-Google-Thread: 103376,e0a59694a441eb7b X-Google-Thread: fac41,e0a59694a441eb7b X-Google-Thread: 1108a1,e0a59694a441eb7b X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,gid103376,gidfac41,gid1108a1,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2004-04-23 01:38:31 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news2.google.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed1.swip.net!swipnet!nntpserver.swip.net!not-for-mail Message-ID: <4088D574.2020503@tele2.fr> From: Philippe Ribet User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031107 Debian/1.5-3 X-Accept-Language: fr, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.eiffel,comp.object Subject: Re: OOP Language for OS Development References: <95db0572.0404142153.431fd058@posting.google.com> <566e2bfb.0404181753.2844342f@posting.google.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 213.102.235.3 X-Complaints-To: news-abuse@swip.net X-Trace: nntpserver.swip.net 1082709504 213.102.235.3 (Fri, 23 Apr 2004 10:38:24 MET DST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 10:38:24 MET DST Organization: A Customer of Tele2 X-Sender: eu726846@tele2.fr@d213-102-235-3.cust.tele2.fr Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 10:36:04 +0200 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.c++:31225 comp.lang.ada:7421 comp.lang.eiffel:718 comp.object:11014 Date: 2004-04-23T10:36:04+02:00 List-Id: Calum wrote: > Philippe Ribet wrote: > >> EventHelix.com wrote: >> >>> At this point C++ would seem to be the best choice. I don't think any >>> other >>> language would match C++ in performance and power. >>> >> >> Do you at least ever heard of Eiffel? I would say that C++ is far from >> matching Eiffel power. > > > In terms of "raw power", both languages are Turing powerful (if we > ignore the "can a finite computer be Turing complete" pedentry). So > power in what sense? What's really nice and neat to do in Eiffel that > is difficult in C++? Give some source code, or at the very least a link > to an article. It's obvious here that language power means expressivity. > Can for example Eiffel implement its own allocators, or is its type > system itself Turing complete (C++ templates)? Could you please re-formulate questions about allocators and type system? I do not understand what you mean, sorry. -- Philippe Ribet The README file said "Requires Windows 95, NT 4.0, or better." So... I installed it on Linux!