From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,5cb36983754f64da X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2004-04-15 04:22:15 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!news.glorb.com!border1.nntp.ash.giganews.com!border2.nntp.ash.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!elnk-atl-nf1!newsfeed.earthlink.net!stamper.news.atl.earthlink.net!newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net.POSTED!d9c68f36!not-for-mail Message-ID: <407E7061.20107@noplace.com> From: Marin David Condic User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 (OEM-HPQ-PRS1C03) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: No call for Ada (was Re: Announcing new scripting/prototyping References: <107m6cdmda7f639@corp.supernews.com> <407D235B.2040004@noplace.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 11:22:14 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.165.2.98 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net 1082028134 209.165.2.98 (Thu, 15 Apr 2004 04:22:14 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 04:22:14 PDT Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:7132 Date: 2004-04-15T11:22:14+00:00 List-Id: Robert I. Eachus wrote: > > Ada does "own" a nice, healthy growing segment of the software market. I > thought that the thrust of this discussion was that the safety-critical > portion of the market was too small, and Ada needed to acquire other > market segments where it dominates. > I could accept that - although I'd be suspicious of declaring that Ada "owns" it in the sense that I doubt that every time someone says "Hey, what do you say? Let's go build a safety critical system..." that Ada is just automatically assumed. I'd bet a lot of that is still done in other languages. However, assuming you're right about it, I'd agree that it is too small a market to really insure a good, healthy growth market for Ada. Otherwise we're at risk of being able to say "Ada is a success" by defining "success" in a small enough way that it becomes meaningless. > Personally, I think that the need for web servers for companies doing > web commerce is an area where Ada's strengths will eventually mean that > it is needed to avoid the hazards associated with other languages. There > is a large, nasty group of crackers out there, and if they ever sniff > out the ability to redirect the billions of dollars in e-commerce > transactions into their accounts, financially safe software will be in > great demand. > Web applications are good to go for because it is clearly a market that is going to grow and the final word on technology is hardly in. Carve out some segment of the web that is sufficiently large & looking for better tools and then make Ada fit that need exceptionally well. That could be a recepie for success - an objective "success" that nobody would dispute & would keep Ada vendors & programmers at work for years to come. MDC -- ====================================================================== Marin David Condic I work for: http://www.belcan.com/ My project is: http://www.jsf.mil/NSFrames.htm Send Replies To: m o d c @ a m o g c n i c . r "Face it ladies, its not the dress that makes you look fat. Its the FAT that makes you look fat." -- Al Bundy ======================================================================