From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 1014db,7a278735334db126 X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,7a278735334db126 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 109fba,7a278735334db126 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: f5d71,7a278735334db126 X-Google-Attributes: gidf5d71,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2004-02-07 20:54:12 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!wn13feed!worldnet.att.net!bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <4025C1FE.7D0B3F3E@worldnet.att.net> From: Les Cargill X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.java,comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Announcing new scripting/prototyping language References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2004 04:54:11 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.74.251.17 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1076216051 12.74.251.17 (Sun, 08 Feb 2004 04:54:11 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2004 04:54:11 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.c++:18089 comp.lang.c:21073 comp.lang.java:2762 comp.lang.ada:5331 Date: 2004-02-08T04:54:11+00:00 List-Id: Y2KYZFR1 wrote: > > Joona I Palaste wrote in message news:... > > Richard Heathfield scribbled the following > > on comp.lang.c: > > > Larry Hazel wrote: > > >> Christopher Benson-Manica wrote: > > >>> > > >>> When I need a language that's easy to use and readable, I turn > > >>> directly to C. Don't let me stop you, though. > > >> > > >> C? Easy to read? You have got to be kidding. > > > > > Compared to the other languages in this crosspost? Damn right it's easy to > > > read! :-) > > > > > I mean yes, okay, I know what you mean. Any sufficiently advanced IOCCC > > > entry is indistinguishable from line noise. But not /all/ C programs are > > > IOCCC entries! > > > > I find C harder to read than Java, and easier to read than C++. I > > don't know about Ada, as I've never seen it. But C and C++ are a > > breeze compared to the likes of Perl, Python and Lisp. They look like > > C looked while I was still a BASIC programmer: a random jumble of > > punctuation marks. > > you have obviously never even seen a Python program, since it does not > use any punction marks. It ( and Lua ) are about as close to > executable pseudo-code as you can get. Python ( and Lua ) is > "comprehendable" by anyone that can read english for the most part. C > and C++ are not. > > Python enforces rules about formatting even, so everyones Python code > HAS to conform to the same formatting rules, thus contributing to even > more "readibility" This brings in question the meaning of "readability". I'd say readability is for those practiced in the language, not "civilians". -- Les Cargill