From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,e5bfa021bc026369 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2004-01-27 05:40:03 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news2.google.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!wn11feed!worldnet.att.net!63.223.4.70!newsfeeds-atl2!news.webusenet.com!elnk-atl-nf1!newsfeed.earthlink.net!stamper.news.atl.earthlink.net!newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net.POSTED!d9c68f36!not-for-mail Message-ID: <40166A32.2070607@noplace.com> From: Marin David Condic User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 (OEM-HPQ-PRS1C03) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Personality Conflict was: why Ada is so unpopular ? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 13:39:59 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.165.26.63 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net 1075210799 209.165.26.63 (Tue, 27 Jan 2004 05:39:59 PST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 05:39:59 PST Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:4903 Date: 2004-01-27T13:39:59+00:00 List-Id: Ada might have done better with two simple overriding rules: A) Know who your customer is. B) Figure out how to make that customer unbelievably happy. Ada bungled the job with embedded developers early on because it didn't pay attention to the needs of the guys in the trenches who were doing the job and had the ability to say to any management: "If you make me use Ada, I can't get the job done" (They may not have the power to select the language, but they sure have the veto power over a language! ;-) In the early days it was too big, too slow, too buggy and too expensive - not to mention it didn't provide features that the garden variety embedded developer considered essential to getting the job done. As languages go, Ada probably had more money thrown at it than any other language in history. It should have used some of that money on "Market Research". O.K. So the pooch got screwed on that one. How to fix it now? Start with (A) above - figure out what market you want to address. Then go to (B) - Ask people in that market what they want out of a language. Maybe offer them some suggestions for possible new and wonderful capabilities, and find out what they say. Figure out what they need to get the most possible leverage from the language and give it to them. That's not exactly rocket science, eh? :-) MDC Mike Brenner wrote: > In addition to the responses given, on the thread "why Ada > is so unpopular", we must remember that it never -- ====================================================================== Marin David Condic I work for: http://www.belcan.com/ My project is: http://www.jsf.mil/NSFrames.htm Send Replies To: m o d c @ a m o g c n i c . r "Face it ladies, its not the dress that makes you look fat. Its the FAT that makes you look fat." -- Al Bundy ======================================================================