From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,714a8558b02b32bb X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2004-01-21 04:52:51 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news2.google.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!elnk-nf2-pas!newsfeed.earthlink.net!stamper.news.pas.earthlink.net!stamper.news.atl.earthlink.net!newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net.POSTED!d9c68f36!not-for-mail Message-ID: <400E7621.2050204@noplace.com> From: Marin David Condic User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 (OEM-HPQ-PRS1C03) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: GUI was Re: why Ada is so unpopular ? References: <100r17jsabt5a3a@corp.supernews.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 12:52:50 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.165.24.48 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net 1074689570 209.165.24.48 (Wed, 21 Jan 2004 04:52:50 PST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 04:52:50 PST Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:4599 Date: 2004-01-21T12:52:50+00:00 List-Id: Therein, of course, lies the dillema. You can have a GUI that gets you all the features of an underlying OS or you can have a portable GUI that leaves out some capabilities that may be available on a given platform. You win some and you lose some. Still, a *portable* GUI could conceivably go off and become its own thing - having features you don't get on any of the underlying platforms. Starting with something like CLAW might be a viable way to go. File off the Windows specifics and make an implementation that runs on X-Windows as well. Then start building from there to create a GUI that might be distinctively "Ada". It might not be easy, but if Ada were to adopt a goal of having a portable GUI/Library via reference implementation I think it would be achievable and worth the effort in the sense that it would serve to make Ada more useful & more attractive to developers. CLAW might be a good starting point for that - if we could get some general consensus to go that way. MDC Randy Brukardt wrote: > > Something like it, with the Windows-specific stuff filed off, would make a > very decent basis for a higher-level, portable GUI library. We've looked at > doing that for the sockets portion, and it isn't too hard. It would be > harder, of course, to do it for the rest of it, but by no means impossible. > > Randy. > > > -- ====================================================================== Marin David Condic I work for: http://www.belcan.com/ My project is: http://www.jsf.mil/NSFrames.htm Send Replies To: m o d c @ a m o g c n i c . r "Face it ladies, its not the dress that makes you look fat. Its the FAT that makes you look fat." -- Al Bundy ======================================================================