From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f7e6c,4bb93691fef1df89,start X-Google-Attributes: gidf7e6c,public X-Google-Thread: fac41,15edb893ef79e231 X-Google-Attributes: gidfac41,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,15edb893ef79e231 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: f4fd2,23202754c9ce78dd X-Google-Attributes: gidf4fd2,public X-Google-Thread: 114809,15edb893ef79e231 X-Google-Attributes: gid114809,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-01-16 00:00:06 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.dacom.co.kr!intgwlon.nntp.telstra.net!news1.optus.net.au!optus!spool01.syd.optusnet.com.au!spool.optusnet.com.au!210.49.20.119.MISMATCH!not-for-mail From: israel r t Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp,comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.eiffel,comp.lang.smalltalk,soc.culture.australian Subject: " Do computers because it pays well" ( was Re: True faiths ) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 19:00:47 +1100 Organization: Help ! I am trapped in this "Organization Tag" by humour impaired terrorists who can't spell "Organisation" ! Message-ID: <3oca4ugor0mskclul9qj7k2favj0rt95dd@4ax.com> References: <4idg3u40ermnp682n6igc5gudp7hajkea9@4ax.com> <3219936759616091@naggum.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.164.144.6 X-Trace: 1011167804 14868 203.164.144.6 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.lisp:24442 comp.lang.ada:18960 comp.lang.eiffel:5419 comp.lang.smalltalk:17993 soc.culture.australian:36220 Date: 2002-01-16T19:00:47+11:00 List-Id: On Wed, 16 Jan 2002 06:42:20 GMT, doylep@eecg.toronto.edu (Patrick Doyle) wrote: >>It also explains why managers speak so disparagingly of programmers as >>"mere coders" >Right: because most of them are. :-) Right. Their instructors are just as bad. I met someone who is teaching VB and Pascal at the local TAFE ( sort of substandard community college ). He actually thought that Pascal is an OOP ! He either does not know what OOP is or else he is confusing Borlands proprietary Delphi extensions with Pascal. I now see kids who can barely walk without drooling who want to "do computers because it pays well". In another decade they would have been barely adequate butchers or bakers. Now they become VB programmers and "help desk" people. --------------------------------------------------------- Devising your own font (Devanagari, pinhead graphics, etc.) and using it in the mail is a good tactic,as is finding some way to use existing obscure fonts. Aramaic , Pre-Rashi Hebrew and Sanskrit are particularly useful in this regard. -- from the Symbolics Guidelines for Sending Mail