From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,47c31ee2e50a590c X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: tore@lis.pitt.edu (Tore Joergensen) Subject: Re: Ada saved by gnat (was Re: Where's Aetech?) Date: 1995/04/19 Message-ID: <3n45p9$dkn@toads.pgh.pa.us>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 101283260 references: <3lv3et$dcb@news1.delphi.com> <3mjccv$gts@news.znet.com> organization: University of Pittsburgh newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: 1995-04-19T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: Jim Dorman (jimd@pcada.com) wrote: [deleted] : GNAT may have some new Ada9X features, but so does Janus Ada's new : compiler. GNAT's got nothing else -- no high-level libraries like : IntegrAda for Windows, no GUI builder like Visual Ada. It's not : validated. It's easy to break with real source code, and there's : no-one to call when it does! [deleted] The nice thing about GNAT is that the source-code is available, and that everybody can port it to other operating systems if they want to (and have the neccessary knowledge). I am not interested in Ada for windows. I use OS/2 and want an Ada95 compiler for OS/2. If I could get a commercial one with a good PM-library, a good debugger and new & better versions coming out every now and then, that would be great! But I am not converting to Microsofts toy-operating system just because there isn't any commercial OS/2 Ada95 compilers around (If anybody can tell me that there is really a commercial high quality Ada95 compiler for OS/2 (That costs less than $1000) I will be happy). In fact, I would rather use C++ than MS Windows! [deleted] : It seems to me that this government-sponsored playground of free : software and cyber-bitching about commercial Ada products and : vendors is both infantile and extraordinarily dangerous to the very : companies that we must have to support our mission critical systems : in the future...and they are nearly all gone! [deleted] : John Galt It also makes some people stay with Ada95 instead of jumping over to C++. For the moment, I am only doing assignments/projects in Ada95, so I can live with GNAT and work around the problems. However, I would love to have a compiler/environment that didn't look ugly compared to what C++ programmers can buy, and I would buy it if it was for OS/2 and not to expensive. [deleted] : I'm out here to make a living. I have no government contract paying : my salary or expenses, and I don't have time to read every message : posted on comp.lang.ada. I offer a variety of Ada products from : multiple vendors, including some of my own, but I have never seen : positive comments about commercial Ada products that did have a large : dose of criticism included. Obviously, everything could be improved! : But did anyone not buy a new car because the cigarette lighter was : round instead of square like you preferred? Did you not buy a box of : Cheerios at the grocery store because you wanted the packing to be a : light blue color instead of the standard yellow?? No, but I don't buy books written in spanish, since I can't read it. Do you sell much/anything for OS/2? : I think a better approach would be to support the vendors, advise them, : not the world, of any product shortcomings and give them an opportunity : to "fix or add" your personal pet item. Have we forgotten the old adage.. : If you don't like it, tell me : If you do like it, tell the world (psst... I don't like MS Windows) HI WORLD! I LIKE Ada95!!! [deleted] : Jim Dorman : President : Active Engineering -- ______________________________________________________________________ Tore B. Joergensen, | e-mail: tore@lis.pitt.edu a norwegian student | snail-mail: 2201 Pittockstr. a long way from home. | Pittsburgh, 15217 PA | web: http://www.pitt.edu/~tojst1