From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,8623fab5750cd6aa X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public Path: g2news1.google.com!news1.google.com!news.glorb.com!wn14feed!worldnet.att.net!207.35.177.252!nf3.bellglobal.com!nf1.bellglobal.com!nf2.bellglobal.com!news20.bellglobal.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Warren W. Gay VE3WWG" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada BIND was: Improving Ada's image - Was: 7E7 Flight Controls Electronics References: <40b9c99e$0$268$edfadb0f@dread16.news.tele.dk> <1086715817.122983@master.nyc.kbcfp.com> <1086733411.736049@master.nyc.kbcfp.com> <3Auxc.11998$XY6.1296622@read2.cgocable.net> <40C85035.4020706@noplace.com> <40CA0032.3010103@noplace.com> <40CAF0E1.4000904@noplace.com> <40CEE1BC.4000508@noplace.com> In-Reply-To: <40CEE1BC.4000508@noplace.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <3lFzc.16307$nY.578830@news20.bellglobal.com> Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 12:21:20 -0400 NNTP-Posting-Host: 198.96.223.163 X-Complaints-To: abuse@sympatico.ca X-Trace: news20.bellglobal.com 1087316415 198.96.223.163 (Tue, 15 Jun 2004 12:20:15 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 12:20:15 EDT Organization: Bell Sympatico Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:1513 Date: 2004-06-15T12:21:20-04:00 List-Id: Marin David Condic wrote: > Keep in mind that years ago when Unix was (ill?)conceived that it was > not intended to be a high-security system. It was intended to provide > enough security that a small development team using it could work > together without hosing each other up. Actually, I believe that the first versions of UNIX were totally lacking in security. After all, the system was serving initially a very small group of researchers at Bell labs. I seem to recall reading somewhere that there was a fierce level of resistance to adding any restrictions at all, to various users. Obviously, over time, it became necessary as the use of the system became more widespread. > It wasn't designed to thwart all > possible attacks by malicious intruders. Hence, additional security > measures have, over time, continued to be piled on it to try to make it > do something it wasn't intended to do. (A little like putting a GUI on > top of MS DOS and trying to make it multitask.) And we remember well what that was like ;-) > If what is wanted is a true high security OS, then it almost sounds like > it would be better to start building one that had those concepts built > in from the start. It could be a good market for Ada to address. > > MDC Agreed, that this is needed. -- Warren W. Gay VE3WWG http://home.cogeco.ca/~ve3wwg