From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,3a20687b5291e42e X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1995-03-24 18:57:39 PST Path: nntp.gmd.de!stern.fokus.gmd.de!ceres.fokus.gmd.de!zib-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!uunet!gwu.edu!gwu.edu!not-for-mail From: mfeldman@seas.gwu.edu (Michael Feldman) Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Fed OOPS ... OOPS! We forgot to include Ada! Date: 24 Mar 1995 21:57:39 -0500 Organization: George Washington University Message-ID: <3l00r3$rhk@felix.seas.gwu.edu> References: <3kkng4$j1s@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM> <3kpsjb$a9s@michp1.redstone.army.mil> NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.164.9.3 Date: 1995-03-24T21:57:39-05:00 List-Id: In article , Gregory Aharonian wrote: > >Ada has been reduced to such a pathetic commercial state that it needs >government (ADAIC) and academic (SIGADA) shills to promote Ada (like at >this week's Object World in Boston), with vendors so loathe to marketing >Ada that not once in the past six years has any Ada compiler vendor in >any software magazine or journal run a full page ad for an Ada compiler >with pricing for at least three months in a row. Without taking away from most of your points, with which I mostly agree, I do want to correct the record on one thing: SIGAda is NOT an academic organization, if by that you mean dominated by university people. I don;t know what the membership ratio is, but I'll bet it's not more than 20-25% academic. And the officers and AdaLetters editor have been almost exclusively industrial folks. K.M. George, indeed an academic (Oklahoma State) has just taken over as editor of AdaLetters; he is the first academic in many years (maybe EVER) to do so. The SIGAda group that ran the exhibit at Object World consisted of no academics at all; most of the work there was done by Charlene Roberts Hayden, employed by GTE in the Boston area. The group at ACM Computing Week - mostly an academic _conference_ - was Hal Hart (TRW), Rick Conn (MITRE), and me. The SIGAda guy in charge of liaison to conferences for the exhibit is Ed Colbert, a small-business guy who does training and other consulting. Treasurer is David Emery (just moved from MITRE in Mass. to Hughes in Canada; he is working on the Canadian air-traffic control system, in Ada of course. Academic? Not! You may be right in some areas, Greg, but your notion of what SIGAda is, is pure B.S. Take a hint from _this_ academic (yes, I am one, chair of the SIGAda Education Working Group, unsurprisingly): do some homework. Mike Feldman