From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,WEIRD_PORT autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f891f,b083d5791a2bf075 X-Google-Attributes: gidf891f,public X-Google-Thread: 109fba,b083d5791a2bf075 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,bd3a80e12fff00ff,start X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1995-03-10 16:54:23 PST Path: bga.com!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!news1.digex.net!ois.com!ois.com!not-for-mail From: beckwb@ois.com (R. William Beckwith) Newsgroups: comp.lang.misc,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Doubts About C++ Followup-To: comp.lang.misc,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.ada Date: 10 Mar 1995 18:22:39 -0500 Organization: Objective Interface Systems, Inc. Message-ID: <3jqmvv$clv@gamma.ois.com> References: <3ilbqq$13me@hearst.cac.psu.edu> <1995Feb26.184830.27399@rcmcon.com> <3003047316.332864@naggum.no> <3003357439.214087@naggum.no> <3jo6v6$hdo@News1.mcs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: gamma.ois.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Xref: bga.com comp.lang.misc:5635 comp.lang.c++:53753 comp.lang.ada:10992 Date: 1995-03-10T18:22:39-05:00 List-Id: In article , pkt@ultranet.com says... > >In article <3003357439.214087@naggum.no>, Erik Naggum wrote: > >> | C++ has better libraries. >> >> strictly speaking, this does not follow from your enumeration of >> libraries, which illustrates _quantity_, not _quality_. > >You have to start somewhere. To have a quality library you must first >have a library. Almost all of the nice languages have *no* libraries >listed in the PIQUI FAQ. >>the exact opposite conclusion seems more likely. > >The analogy with MS-DOS is not evidence one way or the other of quality. >Care to stick your neck out and choose a library you would use for >platform-independent development of a GUI-oriented application? The X Consortium is working on a platform independent, distributed (CORBA), GUI and structured graphics library called Fresco. Fresco supports multi-threading on Win NT and MT Unix's. Check it out in X11R6. Since Fresco's interface (API) is defined in OMG IDL, Fresco can be used from several languages. The `servers' in the X11R6 sample implementation are written in C++. We are working on an Ada95 implementation. Even C++ and Smalltalk programmers will be able to use our `nice language' version. ;-) Fujitsu maintains a nice web page on Fresco: http://edinburgh.fujitsu.com:8000/Fresco.html >Scott Turner >Liant Software Corp., Framingham, MA 01701 USA >pkturner@ultranet.com http://www.ultranet.com/~pkturner/ ... Bill ------------------------------------------------------ e-mail: Bill.Beckwith@ois.com | Team Ada Objective Interface Systems, Inc. | dist, full O-O 1895 Preston White Drive, Suite 250 | multithreading Reston, VA 22091-5448 U.S.A. | built in