From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,67b87eae10891f4f X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1995-02-23 04:04:55 PST Path: nntp.gmd.de!newsserver.jvnc.net!news.cac.psu.edu!news.pop.psu.edu!hudson.lm.com!godot.cc.duq.edu!news.duke.edu!news.mathworks.com!newshost.marcam.com!zip.eecs.umich.edu!panix!cmcl2!thecourier.cims.nyu.edu!thecourier.cims.nyu.edu!nobody From: dewar@cs.nyu.edu (Robert Dewar) Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Another measure of Ada's rejection by corporate America Date: 23 Feb 1995 07:04:55 -0500 Organization: Courant Institute of Mathematical Sciences Message-ID: <3ihtl7$oq0@gnat.cs.nyu.edu> References: <3iepqn$6ej@mica.inel.gov> NNTP-Posting-Host: gnat.cs.nyu.edu Date: 1995-02-23T07:04:55-05:00 List-Id: phw (I looked but did not find a name) says: "An axiom in the marketing game goes something like this: In order to break into an existing stable market (C++ etc.) a new product (Ada) must either offer twice the PERCEIVED positive characteristics at the same price, when compared to the existing products in the market, or offer the same PERCEIVED positive characteristics at half the price." what axiom is this? sounds totally bogus to me. Price sensitivity varies tremendously from one market to another. For example, in the airline game, much smaller price differentials can get new guys into the game. Equally, how easily people shift based on quality varies greatly. These factors of two seem just pulled out of the air. But then a lot of the other value judgments on Ada vs C++ are also pulled out of the air. For example, who says development costs are higher in Ada than in C++. This kind of comparison is very hard to make. You will find precious few cases where exactly the same software has been developed in both languages, so there is virtually no empirical data. Instead what we have is a bunch of Ada enthusiasts who don't know C++ that well who are subjectively sure that Ada development is easier, and vice versa. Yes, there are some data points (several I am aware of show much LOWER development costs in Ada). "Most commercial software is not maintained anyway" I don't really think you can take that as serious commentary. It is of course quite false.