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Subject: Re: can one build commercial applications with latest gnat and other
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From: M E Leypold
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Date: 28 Jun 2006 00:44:33 +0200
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Ludovic Brenta <ludovic@ludovic-brenta.org> writes:

> Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> writes:
> 
> > Pascal Obry <pascal@obry.net> writes:
> >
> >> You can never change the past. So I do not understand what you are saying.
> >
> > I'd bet GtkAda 2.4 once was GMGPL. Ludovic Brenta thought that too. M
> > E Leypold had some quotes to that effect in
> > <ctirmmu0fc.fsf@hod.lan.m-e-leypold.de>.
> >
> > And now we learn that GtkAda 2.4 never was under GMGPL but GPL. That's
> > what I call changing the past.
> 
> No, we do not learn that.  AdaCore was quite specific in saying
> they're not saying anything at all about the past.

Let me paraphrase:

 - "We are distributing GtkAda 2.4.0 as GPL!"

 - "What? GtkAda 2.4.0 in 2005/02? GMGPL? We don't know anything about
   that!"

 - "What? The versions 2.2.0, 1.3.x etc? From our site? The are GPL!"
 
 - "What? They were distributed as GMGPL? We don't know anything about
   that?"

Selective loss of memory or the will to remember does come very close
here to a denial that the past ever existed. Indeed it is the
strongest mode to deny the past without outright saying so (and get
caught, which would be inevitable here).

I wonder wether they remember how and when they acquired any right to
the sources or wether the selective amnesia also covers that areas.

Ludovico: If GtkAda 2.4.0 has been acquired before 2005/02, presumably
from libre2.act-europe.fr, and the past has not changed, why don't you
let the license as GMGPL?


Regards -- Markus