From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,dff4194107a3f277 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1995-01-28 15:31:58 PST Path: swrinde!news.uh.edu!uuneo.neosoft.com!Starbase.NeoSoft.COM!not-for-mail From: dweller@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM (David Weller) Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: C/C++ does not exist! Date: 28 Jan 1995 17:27:42 -0600 Organization: NeoSoft Internet Services +1 713 684 5969 Message-ID: <3gejte$qqk@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM> References: <3g8s8eINNclv@marble.summit.novell.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: starbase.neosoft.com Date: 1995-01-28T17:27:42-06:00 List-Id: In article , Bjarne Stroustrup <9758-26353> 0112760 <9758-26353> wrote: >jls@summit.novell.com (Schilling J.) > > because there's a real question as to how much C++ is actually being > > used out there. >Really? > >Of course, keeping your eyes closed is a good way to be sure >not to see anything see anything you don't want to see. > Bjarne, I think you misinterpreted Jonathan's comments. He was _not_ accusing people of claiming they were using C++ when they were merely using C. Indeed, many of us don't believe that. While it's true the some (like myself) have indeed seen such usage, I'd like to think it's the exception, rather than the rule (no pun intended :-). More to the point, I fully expect to see such accusations in the future with regard to Ada ("They _claim_ they're doing Ada95, but it's just Ada83 code being pushed through an Ada95 compiler."). Does it bother me? Not really, migrating from one version of a language to the next generally involves a gradual inclusion of new features. Jonathan's point, in fact, was that C++ is more than a "version" change, which is why he (properly) chided me for lumping the C/C++ thing. One thing I like to brag about is that Ada95 is MUCH more "backward compatible" than C++ (having personally done conversion efforts with both languages now). Does that mean C++ is flawed? Not at all, it just validates Jonathan's comments. I believe, in fact, that you interpreted the opposite of what Jonathan was saying. -- Frustrated with C, C++, Pascal, Fortran? Ada95 _might_ be for you! For all sorts of interesting Ada95 tidbits, run the command: "finger dweller@starbase.neosoft.com | more" (or e-mail with "finger" as subj.)