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From: rlk@rational.com (Bob Kitzberger)
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Subject: Re: "Subtract C, add Ada"
Date: 24 Jan 1995 00:17:24 GMT
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David O'Brien (dobrien@seas.gwu.edu) wrote:

: I am tired of novice C users always saying this construct is bad, and
: that construct is bad.  And I don't care to program in C using only
: constructs that a novice would understand at first glance.  Ours is a
: professional environment and certain level of proficiency should be
: expected.  If a high school kid off the street could program like an
: expert, then why are we getting degrees and such?

1. Don't assume that those criticizing C constructs are novice C
   programmers.  "The more I know C, the more I like my dog" ;-)

2. I would _hope_ that we are getting degrees in order to learn how to
   design systems, how to manage the development process, how to
   develop systems reliably, how to approach NP complete problems, how
   to test systems, how to avoid duplication of effort, how to estimate
   system size, etc.  Learning language/programming idioms shouldn't
   be very high on the list!

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