From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,38fc011071df5a27 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-05-28 07:37:33 PST From: "Tarjei T. Jensen" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada References: <6a90b886.0305262344.1d558079@posting.google.com> <3ED4A94C.2020501@noplace.com> Subject: Re: Ideas for Ada 200X MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: pc1.akermar.com Message-ID: <3ed4c9a2@news.wineasy.se> X-Original-Trace: 28 May 2003 15:37:22 +0100, pc1.akermar.com X-Complaints-To: abuse@songnetworks.se NNTP-Posting-Host: news.wineasy.se X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: news.wineasy.se Date: 28 May 2003 15:37:22 +0100 X-Trace: wineasy!newsfeed.wineasy.se!news.sto.telegate.se 1054132642 news.wineasy.se (28 May 2003 15:37:22 +0100) X-Complaints-To: abuse@songnetworks.se Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!headwall.stanford.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!newsfeed2.earthlink.net!newsfeed.earthlink.net!newsfeed.news2me.com!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsfeed1!bredband!fi.sn.net!newsfeed2.fi.sn.net!wineasy!newsfeed.wineasy.se!news.sto.telegate.se!news.wineasy.se!not-for-mail Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:37910 Date: 2003-05-28T15:37:22+01:00 List-Id: "Marin David Condic" wrote: > I think a standard Ada sockets package would be A Good Thing. It is not A Goo Thing. It is A Neccessity. It must be present for Ada to survive in general computing. It is time to decide what a programmer should be able to do with Ada right out of the box. Also called "How things should work". If this is not done, Ada will continue to struggle. Currently the main Ada problem is -- as far as general computing is concerned -- the standard library. We need to re-focus on what is needed today and not what was moderately useful in 1984. I still recommend "The Inmates Are Running The Asylum". Read it and then we can start discussing the persons and what they need in order to do their job. greetings,