From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, PP_MIME_FAKE_ASCII_TEXT autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII X-Google-Thread: 103376,325c54deb91283fd X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-04-25 01:29:01 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!diablo.theplanet.net!zen.net.uk!btnet-peer1!btnet-peer0!btnet-feed5!btnet!news.btopenworld.com!not-for-mail From: john@nospam.demon.co.uk (John McCabe) Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada in Iraq Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 08:28:13 +0000 (UTC) Organization: BT Openworld Message-ID: <3ea8f091.2270645@news.btclick.com> References: <3EA81C8D.B0B6949@raytheon.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: host217-37-177-69.in-addr.btopenworld.com X-Trace: titan.btinternet.com 1051259293 17213 217.37.177.69 (25 Apr 2003 08:28:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news-complaints@lists.btinternet.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 08:28:13 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:36526 Date: 2003-04-25T08:28:13+00:00 List-Id: On Thu, 24 Apr 2003 10:19:09 -0700, Jerry Petrey <"jdpetrey"@raytheon.com> wrote: >I'm proud to be from a country with the guts to stand up against such >people rather than burying their heads in the sand and talking about �peace and >love� while the murderers continue their sprees. We are not perfect but we try >to do something to help give freedom to those to whom it is withheld. [OFFTOPIC] Interesting comment, as was the comment on UK TV by one of your government officials. I can't remember the exact context, but it was something akin to him being asked how he saw Iraq etc fitting in to the American Empire. The response was: "well we don't have an empire - yet". Of course, even if Iraq did become part of the US Empire, like the UK appears to have become (!), there would be much more freedom of speech etc than under Saddam Hussein's regime, but don't for a minute think that this war was *all* about freeing the Iraqis from oppression and stopping Iraq from being a threat to 'world peace'. [/OFFTOPIC] >I think Ada makes safer systems that minimize loss of civilian lives in many >hi-tech applications (not only weapons). What I am concerned about is the >movement away from it today in so many areas. I think there will be many more >unnecessary losses of lives in the future for these decisions, however well >intentioned they are. I agree. Although I no longer work with Ada :-( I would have difficulty with the moral issue of working on safety critical and similar systems that used C/C++/Java. Best Regards John McCabe To reply by email replace 'nospam' with 'assen'