From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, WEIRD_PORT autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Received: by 10.66.123.101 with SMTP id lz5mr6312979pab.21.1466811493238; Fri, 24 Jun 2016 16:38:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.157.37.168 with SMTP id q37mr234939ota.13.1466783397374; Fri, 24 Jun 2016 08:49:57 -0700 (PDT) Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!mx02.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!news.glorb.com!jk6no237158igb.0!news-out.google.com!d62ni13372ith.0!nntp.google.com!jk6no237143igb.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 08:49:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=193.251.73.50; posting-account=O3LyFwoAAACc1uh60ZcOUmAGdDmGsEcV NNTP-Posting-Host: 193.251.73.50 References: User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <3d474557-7575-48bb-99a2-1b7a851de2f1@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: ANN: Simple Components for Ada v3.14 with SMTP client From: slos Injection-Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 23:38:13 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Xref: news.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:30905 Date: 2016-06-24T08:49:57-07:00 List-Id: Le mercredi 22 juin 2016 14:50:16 UTC+2, Dmitry A. Kazakov a =C3=A9crit=C2= =A0: > On 22/06/2016 14:25, slos wrote: >=20 > > That's fantastic good news, both for having this feature integrated > > and for the so fast integration. >=20 > It is Ada that makes things easier than in other languages. I am=20 > frequently ranting about many missing features in Ada, but nevertheless= =20 > Ada if far better than anything else. I'm convinced. That's why "Ada for Automation" exists. >=20 > > Thank you very much for your not so "Simple Components". >=20 > It is fairly simple to implement new protocols in the Simple Components= =20 > framework. E.g MODBUS took one week. SMTP took longer because it is=20 > quite poorly designed and has a load of extensions getting progressively= =20 > more cra*ed with each iteration. The good things about standards is that every compliant implementation shou= ld work with others. Of course, that does not imply that they are well designed. This is one reason why there are evolutions and versions. Nothing comes perfect the first time it is designed. We are poor humans. =20 >=20 > > I am playing with node-RED and IBM Bluemix at the moment and I'm > > pretty sure to be using your MQTT and SMTP Client features very soon > > from "Ada for Automation". >=20 > Interesting. Maybe you will find some sense in this "technology". My=20 > provider offers cloud space. It goes without saying that the thing just= =20 > does not work. How one manages to invent something that works worse than= =20 > FTP is beyond me. Well, first you can have a chip VM in the cloud. http://ada4automation.slo-ist.fr:8080/ http://ada4automation.slo-ist.fr:8081/ Both are running on a VM hosted by OVH and the VM runs Debian for something= around 3 Euros per month. Then you can get some services like automatic backup, adding CPU, Memory, D= isk space, bandwidth at will. Of course you have to pay for those. And if you need some higher level services you can get some IA based ones, = or sending SMS to the world or any of the ~150 services available in Bluemi= x. At the moment, I have no clue of what I could do with such services but I a= m sure IBM sales guys will find customers for them. The only thing I know is that openness is key to innovation. >=20 > Good luck. Thank you. The same for you. >=20 > --=20 > Regards, > Dmitry A. Kazakov > http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de