From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,5af5c381381ac5a7 X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news2.google.com!news4.google.com!feeder.news-service.com!border1.nntp.ams.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!news.teledata-fn.de!newsfeed.arcor.de!newsspool1.arcor-online.net!news.arcor.de.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" Subject: Re: Ada requires too much typing! Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada User-Agent: 40tude_Dialog/2.0.15.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de Organization: cbb software GmbH References: <03f84a0a-e070-43a9-9b68-920345f64f94@r27g2000yqb.googlegroups.com> <1c704c1e-1b2e-427f-ae0e-3b2a0f976c7c@y4g2000yqy.googlegroups.com> <14cxhfhcbdmaa$.gp6rbqu5865h.dlg@40tude.net> <457b9c75-1c94-4137-a823-2db342cb26d1@c10g2000yqi.googlegroups.com> <1bghlzj6b2s34.19id3bthuckg5$.dlg@40tude.net> <4c0facec$0$6991$9b4e6d93@newsspool4.arcor-online.net> <101ot9m0ul54n$.6ktxh9d7h6td$.dlg@40tude.net> <4c10b9fb$0$6974$9b4e6d93@newsspool4.arcor-online.net> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 12:28:21 +0200 Message-ID: <3cth5ux94urb.1a27cfod1t37j.dlg@40tude.net> NNTP-Posting-Date: 10 Jun 2010 12:28:21 CEST NNTP-Posting-Host: 0c2b1661.newsspool4.arcor-online.net X-Trace: DXC=koA=gMW_G\N0YVY]kmLTlD4IUK On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 12:10:02 +0200, Georg Bauhaus wrote: > On 10.06.10 11:07, Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote: > >> I call this type algebra. There are operations that yield types from types >> and values. Generic instantiation is such an operation. Derivation is >> another. Array declaration is third. Type constraining is forth, etc. >> >> If I were ARG, I would consider the algebraic type operations the language >> needs, with the goals: >> >> 0. SIMPLIFY THE LANGUAGE >> 1. Reduce generics use no absolute minimum (without performance penalty) >> 2. Most of currently built-in types must become library-defined >> 3. The standard container library must be freed of generics >> 4. The problem of container subtypes to be solved (e.g. when and how a >> container of subtypes becomes a subtype or not) >> 5. The problem of containers of class-wides to be solved (+ relation of a >> container of class-wides to a container of specific types, when, how) > > What will be the type of a non-generic package? Packages have no types. -- Regards, Dmitry A. Kazakov http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de