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<adaworks@sbcglobal.net> writes:

> "Larry Kilgallen" <Kilgallen@SpamCop.net> wrote in message 
> news:c82IfUV$xbi8@eisner.encompasserve.org...
>> In article <o2cPh.4026$u03.1786@newssvr21.news.prodigy.net>, 
>> <adaworks@sbcglobal.net> writes:
>>
>>> I cannot imagine anyone writing a column
>>> called "Obfuscated Ada."
>>
>> Number_of_Genders_Encountered : Integer;
>> Traffic_Light_Color : Boolean;
>> Completion_Flag : My_Special_Record_Type_Defined_in_Another_Module;
>

> OK.  With a little effort, one can write obfuscated code in any
> language.  However, with C++ it is far more likely than with Ada.

Obfuscation is a voluntary effort, though. The word "likely" probably
can't be applied then.

If we're just talking about non-understandable code, I suggest that
the "terse" syntax of the C/C++ language family is only a part of the
problem. Choosing wrong or indecriptive identifiers (perhaps in a
language one isn't fluent in -- or in a language the reader isn't
fluent in ... :-)) can happen in Ada as well.

Regards -- Markus