From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_DATE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 109fba,ef0074ec236ba6e3 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: 108717,ef0074ec236ba6e3 X-Google-Attributes: gid108717,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,b19fa62fdce575f9 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 1108a1,ef0074ec236ba6e3 X-Google-Attributes: gid1108a1,public X-Google-Thread: 1014db,ef0074ec236ba6e3 X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1994-12-14 08:17:33 PST Path: nntp.gmd.de!newsserver.jvnc.net!nntpserver.pppl.gov!princeton!rutgers!sgigate.sgi.com!enews.sgi.com!lll-winken.llnl.gov!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!news.sprintlink.net!interactive.net!winternet.com!solutions.solon.com!seebs From: seebs@solutions.solon.com (Peter Seebach) Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.c,comp.programming,comp.lang.c++,comp.object Subject: Re: Why don't large companies use Ada? Date: 14 Dec 1994 16:17:33 GMT Organization: Solutions Online Message-ID: <3cn5qt$fuc@blackice.winternet.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: solutions.winternet.com Xref: nntp.gmd.de comp.lang.ada:17522 comp.lang.c:72192 comp.programming:13495 comp.lang.c++:82862 comp.object:18659 Date: 1994-12-14T16:17:33+00:00 List-Id: In article mather@mscn.nl (Ross Mather) writes: >But we don't have competitions for who can build the worst bridge / worst >building / worst anything else that is meant to be *engineered*. Not all programs are meant to be engineered. Tools are. Works of art aren't. The situation with natural language parallels this; there are competitions for worst thing for artistic purposes, but these do not carry over into engineering work. In fact, people who can write particularly badly on purpose generally write better when they do* need quality. >Computer programming languages are Engineering Tools designed to let >engineers do their jobs. Yeah sure we have to be a bit artistic now and >then, but that doesn't equate programming with filmmaking. It's not that we have* to, it's that there's absolutely no point if we aren't. Engineering is an art form; no one who believes otherwise has ever been a great engineer. To understand how to make a truly bad program, you have to know what the bad and good things about it are. This is a good way to study quality. >cheers >Ross M. Mather mather@mscn.nl, rmt@dasc.nl -seebs -- Peter Seebach - seebs@solutions.solon.com -- seebs@intran.xerox.com C/Unix proto-wizard -- C/Unix questions? Send mail for help.