From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,85034d1ac78a66eb X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-02-23 08:41:24 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news.ems.psu.edu!news.cis.ohio-state.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newsfeed.r-kom.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!ppp-3-191.5800-13.telinco.NET!not-for-mail From: nickroberts@ukf.net (Nick Roberts) Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada Operating System Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2002 16:41:30 GMT Message-ID: <3c77ba4d.323606731@news.cis.dfn.de> References: <5Tzc8.111999$H37.15018616@news2-win.server.ntlworld.com> <3C73F480.5010806@mail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp-3-191.5800-13.telinco.net (212.1.158.191) X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 1014482480 5666393 212.1.158.191 (16 [25716]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:20301 Date: 2002-02-23T16:41:30+00:00 List-Id: On Wed, 20 Feb 2002 14:09:52 -0500, Hyman Rosen strongly typed: >Joel Sherrill wrote: >> I have always enjoyed the irony that C/C++ supporters enhancing RTEMS >> are improving it as an Ada run-time. :) > >It's not really ironic. Remember that, while the Ada world thinks of >C/C++ as the enemy and the competition, the C/C++ world barely realizes >that Ada exists, and certainly wouldn't mind giving it a helping hand. Well, I don't see C or C++ as the enemy; they are just languages. What I see as unfortunate is the number of people who make an inappropriate choice to use those languages for reasons of innocence, ignorance, indolence, or intransigence. I see as 'the enemy' those who use fear, uncertainty, and doubt as the weapons to promote these inappropriate choices for their own cynical ends. In this light, I would suggest that the choice made by the US Army and/or OAR Corp to continue RTEMS in C was probably very carefully considered, and probably not inappropriate. -- Nick Roberts