From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: a07f3367d7,3025dd6d917b499c X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,public,usenet X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Received: by 10.224.223.84 with SMTP id ij20mr12666416qab.5.1349704637804; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 06:57:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.65.33 with SMTP id u1mr2431567vds.18.1349704637751; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 06:57:17 -0700 (PDT) Path: r17ni19qap.0!nntp.google.com!l8no31226157qao.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 06:57:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4keoa6epdxt7.1nnwxy7v7ar90.dlg@40tude.net> Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=70.53.16.250; posting-account=cUi90woAAADTaOISowbbHM8GUD0-opJO NNTP-Posting-Host: 70.53.16.250 References: <38af7fb8-b0a4-4a31-87aa-b7b698cc89c3@googlegroups.com> <3ca0ffd0-1764-484b-8fab-17c0d2dd9463@googlegroups.com> <1f645050-cf4c-40bf-a797-9687b69e4a54@googlegroups.com> <18ats2960nsvm$.kfufsnul13aq$.dlg@40tude.net> <5072c9ae$0$6562$9b4e6d93@newsspool4.arcor-online.net> <4keoa6epdxt7.1nnwxy7v7ar90.dlg@40tude.net> User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <3c244a30-8967-4c93-9e65-a9734d8bcbf2@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Ada, the best language with the not-so-best tool chain From: Patrick Cc: mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de Injection-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 13:57:17 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: 2012-10-08T06:57:17-07:00 List-Id: so again this is just brainstorming. Might be useless.... So yes, Ada is not C and the runtime needs more. Does anyone think it might= be possible for the community to come to some sort of near agreement on so= me ultra minimal OS/RTOS that would provide the needed functionality to imp= lement all the Ada features but contain nothing else. This would sort of be= a micro-kernel for embedded space that more facilities including full size= operating systems would be built from. I am interested in Minix3 these days. I don't really know anything yet but = from what I understand it's kernel is only 10K lines of code. There is an A= RM port getting close to being ready. It's not a RTOS by default though, th= at might kill the suggestion. It is however designed to be fault tolerant, = which sounds like a nice pairing with Ada. A common base of some sort, would give us all some direction. Maybe Minix3 = is totally wrong but something like this might help us all organize under "= one flag". Those who wanted to scale up to something half way to a full siz= ed OS could and of course those who already need a full size OS are already= satisfied and could skip this.