From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_DATE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 109fba,ef0074ec236ba6e3 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: 1014db,ef0074ec236ba6e3 X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,b19fa62fdce575f9 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 108717,ef0074ec236ba6e3 X-Google-Attributes: gid108717,public X-Google-Thread: 1108a1,ef0074ec236ba6e3 X-Google-Attributes: gid1108a1,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1994-11-30 17:12:49 PST Path: bga.com!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!bcm!newsfeed.rice.edu!news.sesqui.net!uuneo.neosoft.com!Starbase.NeoSoft.COM!not-for-mail From: dweller@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM (David Weller) Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.c,comp.programming,comp.lang.c++,comp.object Subject: Re: Why don't large companies use Ada? Date: 30 Nov 1994 19:04:15 -0600 Organization: NeoSoft Internet Services +1 713 684 5969 Message-ID: <3bj7ef$t73@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM> References: <1994Nov29.154220.27952@cognos.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: starbase.neosoft.com Xref: bga.com comp.lang.ada:8123 comp.lang.c:32689 comp.programming:5515 comp.lang.c++:39040 comp.object:9206 Date: 1994-11-30T19:04:15-06:00 List-Id: In article , An Amoeba wrote: >Why should they bother?? >This is just my .005 pence worth, and feel totally free to totally disagree. > I do. Put some jam in your pockets, you're about to be toasted :-) >Why? > >i) Cost. If the user has a basic knowledge of C or other programming language >then converting to C++ is relatively easy. > Wrong. That's not been my observations nor the observations of others. Cite evidence to support this claim. >ii) Ada's complexity. Most new users will quickly come across all Ada's *nice* >type checking, or special constructs which require a different syntax to normal. >In other languages these are not required. > Define complexity. This is such a vague claim I can't even find a good way to flame back :-) Why is that Ada, a strongly typed language, somehow finds disfavour in your eyes, while the same claim to C++ appears to be revered by you? >iii) Support. Virtually every computer system in the world has a C++ compiler, >and it is being updated continually. Because that is where all the money is. >Not every computer system in the world has Ada on it, plus most will not be >powerful enough to run it. Plus the cost of the respective compilers. C++ >compilers, are cheaper than Ada ones. On all if not the majority of platforms. > I didn't pay a thing for my Ada compiler, and it works quite nicely. Runs on most OS's I know of: MickeySoft-DOS, OS/2, NeXT, Amiga, Linux, SunOS, Solaris, HP, etc., etc. I think your info is a little out of date. >iv) Libraries, Code already written and available experts. C++ has access straight >away to all the C code libraries written. Not just a few nice ones, but all >C library code ever written, one reason the famous COBOL is still around! >Lots and lots of code has already been written in C++, and also any company can >go out and get any number of C++ programmers, or even C ones and train them, >whereas there are fewer Ada programmers. > Ada also has access "straight away" to C libraries. *poof* There goes another one of your arguments. Tsk, tsk. YOu need to work harder at this. >v) OS Support. All modern OS have C and C++ support for there libraries. For Ada >to access the same stuff as C and C++ someone has to write specfications for the >C and C++ code in the OS. It is not supported straight out by OS Vendors. > When I get an Ada compiler from a vendor, I typically get complete OS bindings. -- Proud (and vocal) member of Team Ada! (and Team OS/2) ||This is not your Ada -- Very Cool. Doesn't Suck. || father's Ada For all sorts of interesting Ada tidbits, run the command: ||________________ "finger dweller@starbase.neosoft.com | more" (or e-mail with "finger" as subj.) |"Quitting C++ isn't so difficult, provided you show as much | | persistence stopping as you did starting." dweller |