From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,7ee10ec601726fbf X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-10-08 02:32:02 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!212.74.64.35!colt.net!dispose.news.demon.net!news.demon.co.uk!demon!pipehawk.demon.co.uk!not-for-mail From: john.mccabe@emrad.com.nospam (John McCabe) Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: is Ada dying? Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 09:31:03 GMT Organization: Emrad Ltd Message-ID: <3bc16b42.3799903@news.demon.co.uk> References: <9prl5701m0v@drn.newsguy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: pipehawk.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: pipehawk.demon.co.uk:158.152.226.81 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1002533476 nnrp-08:18474 NO-IDENT pipehawk.demon.co.uk:158.152.226.81 X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:13911 Date: 2001-10-08T09:31:03+00:00 List-Id: On 8 Oct 2001 00:38:15 -0700, Robert*@ wrote: > >From: > >Technical Report >CMU/SEI-92-TR-29 >ESC-TR-92-029 >Ada Adoption Handbook: >A Program Manager?s Guide >Version 2.0 >William E. Hefley >John T. Foreman >Charles B. Engle, Jr. >John B. Goodenough >October 1992 > > >(reproduced here without persmission from CMU, notice this is almost >10 years old report!) 10 years is a long time in software - a report of this nature cannot be relied upon now, particularly as it was written long before Ada 95 became available. Something similar listing the number of Ada 95 compilers available would be use. You have to consider for example that, at the very least, TLD Systems and Meridian never produced an Ada 95 compiler (despite TLD's affiliation with ACT) and, as far as I know, neither even are (capable of) marketing an Ada 83 compiler anymore. Furthermore Tartan (now part of TI) appear to have ceased any development of their compilers. So, while this report says that numbers of compilers have risen since 1987 etc, what has happened since 1992? www.adaic.org lists the following vendors as having certified Ada 95 compilers: ACT Aonix Averstar Conccurrent Computer Corporation DDC-I Green Hills Irvine Compiler Corporation OC Systems Rational RR Software For Ada 83 you have all of the above except ACT plus: Active Engineering Technologies Aitech Defense Systems Alenia Aeritalia & Selenia S.p.A (DACS? - ex-DDC-I?) Convex Control Data Cray Research DESC (formerly ICL) DEC EDS-Scicon Encore GSE Gesellschaft fur Software Engineering mbH (Meridian) Green Valley (!) HP (Apparently now TSP -> Aonix) IBM (now OC Systems) Intel MIPS (now Rational, Green Hills and DDC-I) Multiprocessor Toolsmiths, Inc NEC Proprietary Software Systems Rockwell International Corporation SKY Computers, Inc STN ATLAS Elektronik GmbH Siemens Nixdorf Informationssysteme AG Silicon Graphics Software Leverage, Inc. Stratus Computer Inc Sun Microsystems TLD Systems, Ltd Tartan Inc (incl TI) U.S. Air Force Wang Laboratories, Inc (Sorry - didn't expect the list to be so long!!!) So the question that needs to be asked is whether you really want to promote Ada 83, as there is such a long list of compilers for it (despite the fact I would be surprised if you could source many of them anymore), or promote Ada 95 which has clearly seen far less commercial investment in supporting products. John