From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,7ee10ec601726fbf X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-10-08 01:57:02 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!sn-xit-02!supernews.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!look.ca!newsfeed.icl.net!dispose.news.demon.net!news.demon.co.uk!demon!pipehawk.demon.co.uk!not-for-mail From: john.mccabe@emrad.com.nospam (John McCabe) Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: is Ada dying? Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 08:56:40 GMT Organization: Emrad Ltd Message-ID: <3bc16680.2581922@news.demon.co.uk> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: pipehawk.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: pipehawk.demon.co.uk:158.152.226.81 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1002531413 nnrp-10:15959 NO-IDENT pipehawk.demon.co.uk:158.152.226.81 X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:13908 Date: 2001-10-08T08:56:40+00:00 List-Id: On Sun, 7 Oct 2001 20:42:08 +0100, "martin.m.dowie" wrote: >The evidence from the UK is that Ada use is increasing. Check out articles >in >www.cw360.com and www.jobserve.co.uk has about 5 times as many jobs >for Ada as it did around March/April 2000 (when I was last looking for >work :-) Have you considered that perhaps there are simply 5 times more agencies trying to find candidates for one job? If you look closely at many of the Ada jobs on Jobserve they are for: Farnborough: BAE Systems IBM Global Services Camberley: Aerosystems International (AeI) Frimley: BAE Systems Easams Portsmouth: BAE Systems (including Waterlooville) DERA (QinetiQ?) Wells: Thales Bristol: BAE Systems Borehamwood: Easams Stanmore: BAE Systems Hastings: Computing Devices Rochester: BAE Systems Wharton: BAE Systems Isle Of Wight: BAE Systems New Malden: Thales So there are a few companies looking for Ada staff: BAE Systems Computing Devices Thales AeI Easams (possibly now BAE) DERA (possibly now QinetiQ) A lot of the jobs available at these companies are jobs on (defence) projects that have been running for a number of years, and on projects that are just upgrades of current products. The evidence I have seen is that there are very few, if any at all, new projects coming up that are using Ada. This is one of the reasons I have 'deserted' to find a job using a language that I believe has more of a future (well, possibly - at least it's more likely to lead into other languages based on this one that have a future). It's unfortunate really but I don't really see a future in Ada, although I would recommend learning it because it helps to enforce a sense of discipline required for programming in teams.