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Subject: Re: Ada Library, called, returns and continues ?
From: Patrick <patrick@spellingbeewinnars.org>
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"Or come to the conclusion that this cannot be done. When you say that a
tool kit X is simpler than the tool kit Y, this implies that you already
know how to accomplish all necessary tasks in X.

This is a typical mistake - look, how easy to create a window with a button
in it using X! Yes it is easy and you probably could accomplish 80% of the
project in 20% less time than in Y. The caveat is that the rest 20% could
require 1000% as much, if ever doable.

I know nothing about your toolkit X, I only warn you for this sort of
mistakes. "

Hi Dmitry

Actually my fear of GTK/QT/WxWidgets is actually  because of that last 20%.=
 Even with GTKs excellent documentation and widespread use, I found myself =
at a dead end least year when I wanted to use it with Ada outside of the Ad=
a GTK binding. I read through the Ada binding and tried to read through GTK=
 itself too. Just the build system alone is too much for me, I don't know h=
ow to add in a single file let alone do anything creative with teh toolkit =
on a lower level. I can use the API, that's it.

So to use Fltk as an example, the src directory gives this:
cpp:          55726 (61.71%)
ansic:        34306 (37.99%)
sh:             273 (0.30%)
Total Physical Source Lines of Code (SLOC)                =3D 90,305

With the sloccount command and the whole project gives 198,046 but this inc=
ludes other libraries and test code. I understand 30% of the code now and I=
 could add stuff in.

You and I are in totally different places. You probably don't know how a sp=
ectrofluoromter works but I have <10% of your programming knowledge base. I=
t's critical for me to be able to use a little code as possible and to be a=
ble to understand well or it will just be bug-city.

When I said "when I am further along" I mean further along in my studies.

Thanks