From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,6192a34d0c9ffe5b X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII Path: g2news1.google.com!postnews.google.com!z7g2000prh.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: Adam Beneschan Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada Tutor Web Site Shutting Down Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 11:24:40 -0700 (PDT) Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <3bae2d75-31b0-4a88-b655-bd657921d15c@z7g2000prh.googlegroups.com> References: <7f53de8e-2400-4c87-a818-0b389e117c42@e21g2000yqe.googlegroups.com> <4d9eea12$0$302$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> <2aeab5d1-fa6d-47de-ab53-9a8e6ab5f27a@h9g2000pre.googlegroups.com> <3a6f1fc2-3ae0-42d9-b483-d16cf7ab1566@x8g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <991499fb-bc24-4d7e-baf6-a9c0e16333e6@k22g2000yqh.googlegroups.com> <291504a4-ec55-45f1-bf7f-13078bf71c3e@m10g2000yqd.googlegroups.com> <4dcbf260$0$6992$9b4e6d93@newsspool4.arcor-online.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.126.103.122 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1305224681 22895 127.0.0.1 (12 May 2011 18:24:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 18:24:41 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: z7g2000prh.googlegroups.com; posting-host=66.126.103.122; posting-account=duW0ogkAAABjRdnxgLGXDfna0Gc6XqmQ User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 6.0; WOW64; Trident/4.0; SLCC1; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; Media Center PC 5.0; .NET CLR 3.5.21022; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET CLR 3.0.30618; .NET4.0C),gzip(gfe) Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:19238 Date: 2011-05-12T11:24:40-07:00 List-Id: On May 12, 10:40=A0am, Rugxulo wrote: > > Rather, adopting DOS seems quite > > frankly the most far reaching mistake that computer dependent > > industry has committed, the consequences being loss of both > > software quality and---far worse---a collective loss of any knowledge > > of what quality software might be! > > Not true. Quality software can be written on any OS. "A poor carpenter > blames his tools." Many successful things have been written for DOS, > not the least of which are Lotus 123, MS Word, Turbo C++, Turbo > Pascal, Wolfenstein 3D, Doom, Quake, and a bunch of ports of GNU > tools. Seems right. Actually, I find Georg's assertion puzzling. The quality of software has to do with the experience of the people writing it, and with the design principles (or lack of) that the software developers apply or fail to apply. Carefulness is a factor, of course. The choice of language is a smaller factor, but as we know on c.l.a a language can help support or hinder good software design principles. Hardware limitations can be a small factor, since it's harder to write good quality software when your memory space is limited. The choice of OS seems to be one of the least important factors of all. It's really hard for me to imagine how the choice of DOS versus other operating systems available at the time (or potentially available) could have any significant impact on software quality at all. -- Adam