From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 107f24,582dff0b3f065a52 X-Google-Attributes: gid107f24,public X-Google-Thread: 1014db,582dff0b3f065a52 X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public X-Google-Thread: 109fba,582dff0b3f065a52 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,bc1361a952ec75ca X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-08-06 07:50:01 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsgate.cistron.nl!news.worldonline.nl!newsclients!news.worldonline.nl!not-for-mail From: info@hoekstra-uitgeverij.nl (Richard Bos) Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.functional Subject: Re: How Ada could have prevented the Red Code distributed denial of service attack. Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2001 14:03:40 GMT Organization: Go wash your mouth. Message-ID: <3b6ea1c1.1479814516@news.worldonline.nl> References: <3b6a453c.1193942215@news.worldonline.nl> <9keejl$fhj@augusta.math.psu.edu> <3b6e4ab8.1457529830@news.worldonline.nl> <9km99q$qt3@augusta.math.psu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: vp225-251.worldonline.nl X-Trace: nereid.worldonline.nl 997109225 25432 195.241.225.251 (6 Aug 2001 14:47:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@worldonline.nl NNTP-Posting-Date: 6 Aug 2001 14:47:05 GMT X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:11369 comp.lang.c:72458 comp.lang.c++:80315 comp.lang.functional:7340 Date: 2001-08-06T14:47:05+00:00 List-Id: cross@augusta.math.psu.edu (Dan Cross) wrote: > In article <3b6e4ab8.1457529830@news.worldonline.nl>, > Richard Bos wrote: > >cross@augusta.math.psu.edu (Dan Cross) wrote: > >> In article <3b6a453c.1193942215@news.worldonline.nl>, > >> Richard Bos wrote: > >> >Since the design is part of the programming (or should be!), I can only > >> >answer "Mu!". > >> > >> Huh? ``Design as you go'' is rarely a good strategy; you should always > >> have some idea how to start before applying fingers to keyboard. > > > >Since when does programming start with applying fingers to keyboard? > > These days, most of the time. :-) But then, that's my point; it's a bad > idea. Well, then, what's your point in contrasting "programming defects" with "design defects"? Richard