From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,LOTS_OF_MONEY autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 107f24,582dff0b3f065a52 X-Google-Attributes: gid107f24,public X-Google-Thread: 1014db,582dff0b3f065a52 X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,bc1361a952ec75ca X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 109fba,582dff0b3f065a52 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-08-02 01:50:01 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsgate.cistron.nl!news.worldonline.nl!newsclients!news.worldonline.nl!not-for-mail From: info@hoekstra-uitgeverij.nl (Richard Bos) Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.functional Subject: Re: How Ada could have prevented the Red Code distributed denial of service attack. Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 08:25:23 GMT Organization: Go wash your mouth. Message-ID: <3b690498.1111845720@news.worldonline.nl> References: <9ka1jc$mgd@augusta.math.psu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: vp177-146.worldonline.nl X-Trace: nereid.worldonline.nl 996742153 29947 195.241.177.146 (2 Aug 2001 08:49:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@worldonline.nl NNTP-Posting-Date: 2 Aug 2001 08:49:13 GMT X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:11051 comp.lang.c:71573 comp.lang.c++:79287 comp.lang.functional:7161 Date: 2001-08-02T08:49:13+00:00 List-Id: cross@augusta.math.psu.edu (Dan Cross) wrote: > In article , > Kaz Kylheku wrote: > >>Chain saw guards - not needed, just use them properly! > >>Seat belts - not needed, just drive properly! > > > >Can you drive improperly or saw improperly because of the presence of > >safety features? > > Sure you can! But the incidences of people chopping off their fingers > or being thrown through windshields went way down once chainsaw guards > and seat belts came into widespread use. Yes, and the seat belt actually nicely illustrates Kaz's point. Immediately after the seat belt was introduced, the number of fatalities in accidents plummeted. The years after, the number slowly rose again, because drivers adapted to the new safety level seat belts provided and were willing to take risks they wouldn't have taken without them. The nature of the fatalities have changed, yes. Nowadays, it's mostly innocent bystanders that get killed, not the driver that flies through the windscreen. Richard