From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,7bcba1db9ed24fa7 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-07-11 02:37:43 PST From: "Martin Dowie" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada References: <3B460DA9.C2965042@ix.netcom.com> <9ff447f2.0107061757.34ca0723@posting.google.com> <3B475678.C582735D@worldnet.att.net> <3b478165_3@news3.prserv.net> Subject: Re: Managers believe that Ada programmers are hard to find Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 10:38:27 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 NNTP-Posting-Host: sg2c11210.dsge.edinbr.gmav.gecm.com Message-ID: <3b4c1bfe$1@pull.gecm.com> X-Trace: 11 Jul 2001 10:27:26 GMT, sg2c11210.dsge.edinbr.gmav.gecm.com Path: archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.icl.net!shale.ftech.net!news.ftech.net!colt.net!newspeer.clara.net!news.clara.net!btnet-peer!btnet-peer0!btnet-feed5!btnet!newreader.ukcore.bt.net!pull.gecm.com!sg2c11210.dsge.edinbr.gmav.gecm.com Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:9779 Date: 2001-07-11T10:38:27+01:00 List-Id: I'm not over 40 nor (to my knowledge) are any of the other engineers at this site with Ada experience! raj wrote in message news:c15nktcvle0s7vhh92f3n0ki9bbjvuct34@4ax.com... > >But almost everybody is using Java and almost non\body is using Ada. > > One result of this is that managers say: > " But if we use Ada were are we going to get new programmers" > Considering that the turnover in the industry is around 60 % per year > this may not be an unreasonable argument. There are plenty of Java , > and C++ and Perl programmers. Ada programmers are as rare as lisp > prgrammers. > > In addition, most Ada programmers I have come across are elderly > (ie: over 40 ) and we all know that the average manager prefers hiring > a programmer in his/her late 20's to early 30's. > ( Among other advantages they can be paid less and take less time off > for their families ...)