From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 10a146,23963231b5359f74 X-Google-Attributes: gid10a146,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,23963231b5359f74 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-06-15 10:34:13 PST From: "Dale King" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.java.programmer References: <3b24dc21$1@news.tce.com> <9g33oo$rp$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <3b267365$1@news.tce.com> <3B267A3D.1B2F2750@ftw.rsc.raytheon.com> <9g61hj$35f$1@nh.pace.co.uk> Subject: Re: software suits, was Re: Long names are doom ? Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 00:05:49 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 NNTP-Posting-Host: weis3.indy.tce.com Message-ID: <3b2a470e$2@news.tce.com> X-Trace: 15 Jun 2001 12:34:06 -0600, weis3.indy.tce.com Organization: Thomson Consumer Electronics Path: archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.cwix.com!pullfeed!news.tce.com!weis3.indy.tce.com Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:8787 comp.lang.java.programmer:76726 Date: 2001-06-15T00:05:49-05:00 List-Id: "Marin David Condic" wrote in message news:9g61hj$35f$1@nh.pace.co.uk... > Exactly! When you go to buy a house or a used car labeled "as is", a court > would likely rule that you had reasonable opportunity to inspect the house > or car and look for flaws & hence could have and should have known what you > were buying. (BTW: This also doesn't hold up across the board - there are > exceptions - talk to a relator about "disclosure" and how that still may not > get you out of all troubles!) > > When you buy a piece of software at CompUSA, all you can do there is read > the stuff on the outside of the box - and maybe the user's manuals if you > bust open the box (and doing so does not constitute acceptance.) You cannot > inspect the actual product until you put it on your machine and go past the > "I Accept" button. That "contract" doesn't even promise that the software > inside will even start up and execute *at*all*. It could be an .EXE full of > random zeros and ones and you have no way of knowing that until after you go > past the "I Accept". Hence, you can't really know what you are agreeing to > and no contract takes place. That would be covered under warranty which is separate from what we have been discussing here. Under the warranty you probably have the right to return it for a refund since it didn't work, but that is quite different than suing over bugs. -- Dale King