From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 107f24,6f568a2e6507575 X-Google-Attributes: gid107f24,public X-Google-Thread: f891f,6f568a2e6507575 X-Google-Attributes: gidf891f,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,6f568a2e6507575 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-04-26 06:01:45 PST Path: newsfeed.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.icl.net!newspeer.clara.net!news.clara.net!news5-gui.server.ntli.net!ntli.net!news2-win.server.ntlworld.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "chris.danx" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.functional,comp.lang.misc References: <3AE67F57.722A78D8@andrewcooke.free-online.co.uk> <3AE69665.63E362CD@info.unicaen.fr> <3AE6DAB3.899FF645@andrewcooke.free-online.co.uk> <3AE7E37B.F384DCDA@info.unicaen.fr> <3AE81234.267643AC@kfunigraz.ac.at> Subject: Re: Play with virtual machines (Was: Thoughts and Opinions...) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Message-ID: <3WUF6.751$sk1.133177@news2-win.server.ntlworld.com> Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 13:57:02 +0100 NNTP-Posting-Host: 62.252.129.107 X-Complaints-To: abuse@ntlworld.com X-Trace: news2-win.server.ntlworld.com 988289791 62.252.129.107 (Thu, 26 Apr 2001 13:56:31 BST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 13:56:31 BST Organization: ntlworld News Service Xref: newsfeed.google.com comp.lang.ada:6954 comp.lang.functional:5328 comp.lang.misc:1151 Date: 2001-04-26T13:57:02+01:00 List-Id: "Siegfried Gonzi" wrote in message news:3AE81234.267643AC@kfunigraz.ac.at... > Jerzy Karczmarczuk wrote: > > > All this together permits to write a long piece of (say, Matlab) code > > 10 times faster and shorter than the equivalent C code. Less bugs, and > > because those operations are within the kernel, the execution speed > > is very decent. > > [comp.lang.misc removed from the header] > [Stop removing groups. Your getting on my nerves! This is suppost to be an open discussion. So let's keep it that way.] > That is correct. But there remains one problem: the written code is very hard > to read. Sure the development time is reduced by an enormous amount. I cannot > live without Yorick anymore (I can't pay the money which Yorick helped saving > me), but reusing the code is the same dilema as with lets say C. > > > Array-oriented software will be always needed by physicists, engineers, > > etc. > > That is really true. But there is another option: Fortran 90. Sure it is not > "interactive" but it has some nice features handling arrays. > > > It is a pity that an array-oriented FUNCTIONAL language: Sisal > > is dead. This is an ecological niche wide open. > > I know from a physicist at LLNL that Sisal had been the only "functional" > language with the potential to compare in speed against Fortran. But nobody > knows why they dropped Sisal. > > > S. Gonzi > [BTW: There is an IDL clone for Linux available, called "Ana". It is > something like Matlab or Yorick but with strong emphasize on image > processing. An IDL license costs in Europe nearly more than US$ 2000.-. So > Ana might be a good proxy for IDL]. > >