From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,1e3f2eac5c026e3 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-12-18 05:10:47 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news2.google.com!newsfeed2.dallas1.level3.net!news.level3.com!crtntx1-snh1.gtei.net!news.gtei.net!newsfeed1.easynews.com!easynews.com!easynews!bigfeed2.bellsouth.net!news.bellsouth.net!elnk-atl-nf1!newsfeed.earthlink.net!stamper.news.atl.earthlink.net!newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net.POSTED!d9c68f36!not-for-mail Message-ID: <3FE1A74F.10900@noplace.com> From: Marin David Condic User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 (OEM-HPQ-PRS1C03) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada Job Market, Was: Re: SIGada Conference References: <1241654d.0312151501.262b3bd0@posting.google.com> <3FDF0457.70601@noplace.com> <3FE05B88.1070701@noplace.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 13:10:47 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.165.25.239 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net 1071753047 209.165.25.239 (Thu, 18 Dec 2003 05:10:47 PST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 05:10:47 PST Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:3532 Date: 2003-12-18T13:10:47+00:00 List-Id: We will not help Ada by deluding ourselves into thinking everything is just fine. Seeing a handful of companies experiencing some growth - while good for those companies - doesn't imply that Ada is on a nice, healthy, upward spiral. If we want to live in a rainbow, gumdrop, pastel unicorn, sugar-sweet, fairy-story land, then we can believe that Ada is doing just great and will be around and growing for years to come and nothing really needs to be done. OTOH, we could get serious about what is happening in industry and understand that the bulk of the software population sees Ada as something old and beyond its useful life and not to be taken seriously for the future. Given that understanding of reality, we might want to *save* Ada by doing something that would create a "New and Revitalized" impression of the language. Give Ada some major new capabilities that might actually reverse that impression people have of it being over the hill. MDC Steve wrote: > Do you realize you're trashing the language with your statements? > Taking news that might be encouraging to Ada enthusiasts (the people you're > likely to find on this group) and saying it's garbage. It doesn't help. > > Steve > (The Duck) > -- ====================================================================== Marin David Condic I work for: http://www.belcan.com/ My project is: http://www.jsf.mil/NSFrames.htm Send Replies To: m o d c @ a m o g c n i c . r "Trying is the first step towards failure." -- Homer Simpson ======================================================================