From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,1e3f2eac5c026e3 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-12-16 05:10:53 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news2.google.com!newsfeed2.dallas1.level3.net!news.level3.com!crtntx1-snh1.gtei.net!news.gtei.net!newsfeed1.easynews.com!easynews.com!easynews!elnk-pas-nf1!newsfeed.earthlink.net!stamper.news.pas.earthlink.net!stamper.news.atl.earthlink.net!newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net.POSTED!d9c68f36!not-for-mail Message-ID: <3FDF0457.70601@noplace.com> From: Marin David Condic User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 (OEM-HPQ-PRS1C03) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: SIGada Conference References: <1241654d.0312151501.262b3bd0@posting.google.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 13:10:53 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.165.26.183 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net 1071580253 209.165.26.183 (Tue, 16 Dec 2003 08:10:53 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 08:10:53 EST Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:3482 Date: 2003-12-16T13:10:53+00:00 List-Id: That can easily be misleading. Its possible that some companies are growing by getting a larger share of a shrinking pie. As some companies abandon Ada as a business venture, others pick up whatever share they may have had and show signs of "Growth" - but it doesn't imply Ada is necessarily doing well. I'd like to see Ada get somewhere, but there needs to be a better metric than the business growth of some few companies. Jobs in Ada, new project starts in Ada, classes taught in Ada, etc. Any of those would be a beter metric - unless you could get total revenues for all companies doing Ada business (and even that would miss use of Ada in internal work by big companies like Boeing, Lockheed, etc.) In any event, its tough to get those metrics so we're still left with perceptions and best guesses. My perception is that Ada has been in general on the decline and had better do something to excite the world if it wants to be around with any real strength in another ten years. MDC Stephen Leake wrote: > > The most interesting thing was that there are several companies making > money using Ada, and they are all growing :). > -- ====================================================================== Marin David Condic I work for: http://www.belcan.com/ My project is: http://www.jsf.mil/NSFrames.htm Send Replies To: m o d c @ a m o g c n i c . r "Trying is the first step towards failure." -- Homer Simpson ======================================================================