From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,60e2922351e0e780 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-11-19 18:07:29 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news2.google.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!elnk-pas-nf1!newsfeed.earthlink.net!pd7cy1no!shaw.ca!feed.cgocable.net!read2.cgocable.net.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Message-ID: <3FBC21D2.9165EB58@cogeco.ca> From: Warren Gay Reply-To: warren@cogeco.ca X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Re-Marketing Ada (was "With and use") References: <3FB0B57D.6070906@noplace.com> <3FB22125.1040807@noplace.com> <3FB3751D.5090809@noplace.com> <3FB8B9BC.5040505@noplace.com> <3FBA1118.4060105@noplace.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 21:07:14 -0500 NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.150.168.167 X-Complaints-To: abuse@cogeco.ca X-Trace: read2.cgocable.net 1069294054 24.150.168.167 (Wed, 19 Nov 2003 21:07:34 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 21:07:34 EST Organization: Cogeco Cable Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:2703 Date: 2003-11-19T21:07:14-05:00 List-Id: "Chad R. Meiners" wrote: > "Warren W. Gay VE3WWG" wrote in message > news:U4tub.9139$iT4.968781@news20.bellglobal.com... > > For General Purpose (GP) programming, Ada suffers from two main > > drawbacks: > > > > 1. Interfacing to the C world is an uphill battle. C++ > > (portably) is near impossible (usually you're forced > > into C wrapper interfaces to C++, to do this portably). > > > > 2. Availability of free (or near free) compilers for the > > platform. > > > > ( 3. Libraries is another, but I am going to leave that > > discussion out of this post. ) > > Actually your points 1 and 3 are the same. Not exactly. What I meant by "libraries" was something Ada-natural like a thick binding. The #1 case is not going to provide that kind of API. > True, it would be nice to have > better interpretably with pre-existing libraries, but this usually is a > non-issue in a academic environment. Some students will want to learn how > to write GUI programs and so forth, but Ada already has pre-existing > bindings for these tasks. I agree that it would nice to have a thin-binding > generator. Perhaps you could start working on one? > > -CRM Warren.