From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,60e2922351e0e780 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-11-03 14:11:06 PST Message-ID: <3FA6D275.924D5750@fakeaddress.nil> Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 23:11:01 +0100 From: Gautier Write-only X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.8 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Clause "with and use" References: <3FA2CDCB.500F4AF0@fakeaddress.nil> <3FA3B412.AF3BEB96@fakeaddress.nil> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 80.218.90.97 X-Trace: news.swissonline.ch 1067897466 80.218.90.97 (3 Nov 2003 23:11:06 +0200) X-Complaints-To: abuse@swissonline.ch Path: archiver1.google.com!news2.google.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!feed.news.nacamar.de!news.belwue.de!irazu.switch.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.swissonline.ch!not-for-mail Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:2013 Date: 2003-11-03T23:11:01+01:00 List-Id: > > OK, I think I'm starting to get it. Redundant keystrokes are what make > > Ada the great language it is! I guess I was just too stubborn to see > > that sooner. Now that I see the light, let me propose a way to use > > even more redundant keystrokes: Preben Randhol: > No, you will never get it. Try read the design goals 10 more times and > perhaps you will finally understand the points about readability versus > writeability. They are not always opposed. IMHO with this proposal (whatever form it takes: "with and use" or "use" with implicit "with") you will gain in readability _and_ writeability. ________________________________________________________ Gautier -- http://www.mysunrise.ch/users/gdm/gsoft.htm NB: For a direct answer, e-mail address on the Web site!