From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,15267b2c375b45c2 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-10-26 05:36:36 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news2.google.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!elnk-nf2-pas!newsfeed.earthlink.net!stamper.news.pas.earthlink.net!stamper.news.atl.earthlink.net!newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net.POSTED!d9c68f36!not-for-mail Message-ID: <3F9BCDE0.1070704@noplace.com> From: Marin David Condic User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 (OEM-HPQ-PRS1C03) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada Component Registry proposal References: <3F92BEAA.9030004@comcast.net> <3F97EBFD.8040901@comcast.net> <3F9879DA.6070205@comcast.net> <3F995D12.5040200@comcast.net> <3F9AB5E9.6060809@comcast.net> <3F9AE6F2.4040108@noplace.com> <3F9AE95F.3090404@comcast.net> <3F9AEB09.9020102@noplace.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 13:36:36 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.165.22.116 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net 1067175396 209.165.22.116 (Sun, 26 Oct 2003 08:36:36 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 08:36:36 EST Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:1693 Date: 2003-10-26T13:36:36+00:00 List-Id: Well, that's something. ACT is probably the most active in enhancing their Ada product - I don't know what the other vendors are up to or if they anticipate making any significant enhancements to their compiler at all. If ACT were driving it and it was available for other vendors to adopt, that might be a suitable way to go. It might be a good idea to get a read on the relative interest of other vendors and some fix on how actively they are developing their compiler. That's where the ARG could be useful - if a vendor has a representative on the ARG, they are probably interested in Ada's future, have some willingness to extend their Ada product and could be asked to comment on the interest in a library. If they don't have a representative on the ARG, then its a good bet they aren't terribly interested in any future enhancements to their Ada compiler - if they don't care enough about major syntactic/semantic changes to Ada, then they almost certainly won't care about a relatively lesser thing like a library. One other thing the ARG would be good for - comment on what is already planned or likely to be planned for the next issue of Ada. I had heard talk of a file system interface package and probably some additional things, but I don't know that there is a current plan to have any sort of containers. They might conceivably comment on two other issues: 1) If Ada were to get a CAL, what should the first area(s) of priority be? (Containers? Math? Network? OS?...) 2) Are there any criteria they would find important in ultimately accepting or rejecting a CAL as being "part of Ada"? (Style issues? Domain issues? Platform issues? - Basically what sorts of things might get the CAL shot down and rejected.) Since we have an ARG member (or two, or three...) listening in - maybe there's some comment? Say something to me off line if you'd prefer to discuss it out of the public eye. (See my return address in the .SIG) MDC Stephane Richard wrote: > Well I talked to ACT quickly, I'm still waiting for a phone call which it > looks like I'll have to remind them of it seems :-). But nonetheless, they > did recognize the effort, they do follow c.l.a. pretty good, now to wait for > em to say something. but I need to talk to that dude first. Guess at the > time it was too early to pronounce themselves but they didn't categorically > reject it either (so far). Maybe all they are waiting for is something to > look at (hence what Robert is doing) so they can see how it is planned to > work, give them a basis of an idea of what it might look like and as Robert > said how easily usable it is as far as concepts goes. > > I'll get in touch with them again monday probably. > -- ====================================================================== Marin David Condic I work for: http://www.belcan.com/ My project is: http://www.jsf.mil/NSFrames.htm Send Replies To: m c o n d i c @ a c m . o r g "So if I understand 'The Matrix Reloaded' correctly, the Matrix is basically a Microsoft operating system - it runs for a while and then crashes and reboots. By design, no less. Neo is just a memory leak that's too hard to fix, so they left him in... The users don't complain because they're packed in slush and kept sedated" -- Marin D. Condic ======================================================================