From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,715875e575230543 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-10-21 20:56:05 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news2.google.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!in.100proofnews.com!in.100proofnews.com!attla2!ip.att.net!attbi_feed3!attbi_feed4!attbi.com!rwcrnsc53.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <3F95FF86.3040208@comcast.net> From: "Robert I. Eachus" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20021120 Netscape/7.01 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Thought this was funny References: <3F95AFE3.7030308@comcast.net> <3F95D0D2.40103@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.34.139.183 X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-Trace: rwcrnsc53 1066794964 24.34.139.183 (Wed, 22 Oct 2003 03:56:04 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 03:56:04 GMT Organization: Comcast Online Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 03:56:04 GMT Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:1363 Date: 2003-10-22T03:56:04+00:00 List-Id: Ed Falis wrote: > On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 00:36:47 GMT, Robert I. Eachus > wrote: > >> Take that back! I was making fun of ExtremeProgramming nutcases. ;-) > Ah, but an Extreme Programming nutcase would have agreed with you, > saying "YAGNI!" (You Ain't Gonna' Need It!) when faced with that > construct. He also would agree with your philosophy of developing your > unit tests as you design. So, you must be careful, Grasshopper - you > might find yourself post-classified, like I have. Come on, if they say YAGNI! they can't be XP nutcases. The real nutcases would chastise you for not being prepared for fuzzy logic values: if >= Certainty then ... elsif <= Unlikely then ... else -- uncertain cases. ... end if; That paragraph I wrote was an attempt to separate the Zen of XP, which is very good, from the nutcase version that tries to convert ethetics into moral laws. Yes, there is a lot of good thinking in XP. However, I was recently looking at some books "how to" on XP in Barnes & Nobles that made me sick. They tried to tell you what to do, not why you should do it, and to make absolutes out of what should be esthetic judgements. I guess the charlatans have taken over XP as the latest fad. Oh, and don't let anything I said about make you think I disagree with use of fuzzy logic in programming. There are places where it is very useful. But let's keep it where it belongs. Please! -- Robert I. Eachus "Quality is the Buddha. Quality is scientific reality. Quality is the goal of Art. It remains to work these concepts into a practical, down-to-earth context, and for this there is nothing more practical or down-to-earth than what I have been talking about all along...the repair of an old motorcycle." -- from Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance by Robert Pirsig