From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,54889de51045a215 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-10-21 06:00:22 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news2.google.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!elnk-nf2-pas!newsfeed.earthlink.net!stamper.news.pas.earthlink.net!stamper.news.atl.earthlink.net!newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <3F952DDD.6000501@noplace.com> From: Marin David Condic User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 (OEM-HPQ-PRS1C03) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: += in ada References: <3F7316F7.219F@mail.ru> <17cd177c.0310010606.52da88f3@posting.google.com> <3F8BC74F.2CFBFF37@0.0> <1066312000.671303@master.nyc.kbcfp.com> <1066322883.139702@master.nyc.kbcfp.com> <3F8F372D.9040801@comcast.net> <3F8F4559.50306@noplace.com> <3F929FC8.9070901@noplace.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 13:00:21 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 165.247.67.11 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net 1066741221 165.247.67.11 (Tue, 21 Oct 2003 06:00:21 PDT) mcondic@mindspring.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 06:00:21 PDT Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:1282 Date: 2003-10-21T13:00:21+00:00 List-Id: Libraries are a very important thing - but maybe not the only thing. Thanks for the vote of confidence though. ;-) I think some advantage could come from trying to identify some market segment and bending over backwards to give them what they want. Something a little less vague than "High Reliability - Long Lived Systems" - although that's not a bad start. Something along the line of "Cable TV" or "Cellular Phones" or "GUI Based Business PC Apps". Libraries that catered to some problem domain - along with whatever other support tools or language adaptations might fit with that - could go a long way in establishing a larger base for Ada. We can pretty much scratch "Embedded Systems" off the list given that "Other" ranks higher than "Ada" in surveys of computer languages used for embedded systems. I think they're too entirely unimpressed with Ada (to put it poklitely) to come back any time soon. If we wanted to win that crowd, the way to do it is get the language bigger in some other sector such that there is more growth of support structures needed to make it attractive for an embedded system. MDC Marius Amado Alves wrote: > > Libraries is the way. I am 100% with the CAL idea. > -- ====================================================================== Marin David Condic I work for: http://www.belcan.com/ My project is: http://www.jsf.mil/NSFrames.htm Send Replies To: m c o n d i c @ a c m . o r g "All reformers, however strict their social conscience, live in houses just as big as they can pay for." --Logan Pearsall Smith ======================================================================