From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,88ed72d98e6b3457 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-10-16 11:04:38 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!headwall.stanford.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!elnk-nf2-pas!newsfeed.earthlink.net!stamper.news.pas.earthlink.net!stamper.news.atl.earthlink.net!newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <3F8EDDB0.2020808@noplace.com> From: Marin David Condic User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 (OEM-HPQ-PRS1C03) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Standard Library Interest? References: <3F7F760E.2020901@comcast.net> <3F8035B0.7080902@noplace.com> <3F816A35.4030108@noplace.com> <3F81FBEC.9010103@noplace.com> <6Ingb.30667$541.13861@nwrdny02.gnilink.net> <3F82B4A4.5060301@noplace.com> <3F82F527.3020101@noplace.com> <3F846B5E.9080502@comcast.net> <3F855460.6020804@noplace.com> <3F86211B.103@comcast.net> <3F8640CA.6090306@noplace.com> <3F881515.4060305@noplace.com> <3F8E915C.6040003@noplace.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 18:04:37 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.165.27.19 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net 1066327477 209.165.27.19 (Thu, 16 Oct 2003 11:04:37 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 11:04:37 PDT Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:1007 Date: 2003-10-16T18:04:37+00:00 List-Id: But who should pick the "Winning Design"? I'd think that ought to be the vendors. Hence, I'd imagine them running the show and agreeing to deliver the end result. Otherwise, you're free to submit a design to me and I'll pronounce it "The Winner" and declare it to be "The Official Conventional Ada Library. What does that accomplish? Get something going with the vendors and I think you'll see a library result that starts to get shipped with compilers and used as "The General Answer" by most developers. I don't think it matters if the vendors form up a R&D group and fund it to do the job or get a SIGAda committee going and donate some of their staff to it or contract the job out or pick some volunteer effort as "The Winner" and start building on it. Long term, I think they're going to have to spend a few bucks to keep it going, but they're doing that already in most respects via the ARM and their own libraries. I see them as the key to picking a direction and adopting something to go there and making it be "The Standard Thing". Without their involvement, we'll just see more of the same. MDC Warren W. Gay VE3WWG wrote: > > I like the idea of small teams that are capable of consensus, and > the idea that a competition with a winning design should be > adopted. Where this seems to fall down, is that the very people > that should be involved, do not have the time to allocate to this. > -- ====================================================================== Marin David Condic I work for: http://www.belcan.com/ My project is: http://www.jsf.mil/NSFrames.htm Send Replies To: m c o n d i c @ a c m . o r g "All reformers, however strict their social conscience, live in houses just as big as they can pay for." --Logan Pearsall Smith ======================================================================